TSA now setting the standard with which other invasive measures are compared

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Only two. Less than two for anyone not traveling through Las Vegas or Boston Logan, where the gropes were "tested" for months before being imposed nationally on November 1, 2010. People rolled over. As they are still doing.

    As for using the scanners as primary, always intended in my book.

    A friend just came back from a business trip to San Francisco. When she went to the airport there, she said everyone was being told to go through the scanners. There was no metal detector option.
  2. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    Oh I know and agree. I was just saying that TSA claimed it was secondary at the start.
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Get ready for the full-body massage from your favorite female assist:

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  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    hey, isn't that a picture of Rugape?
  5. RB

    RB Founding Member

  6. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    The discussion has at no time been on this topic. There is no discussion on two topics to split. This thread simply does not belong here.
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Actually there was ... for about two posts.
  8. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    This is my concern and I'll let the thread die:

    On the day after, 9/12 I did not ever imagine that just because I wanted to travel via the most modern mode of transportation I would have to be subject to take off my clothes in public down to last shirt, pants, and sock, have my entire body rubbed over, and all my belongings spread out and examined all the while I was discouraged not allowed to protest or react without further punishment of being put in a clear glass room and left to 'think about the situtation.' At the discretion of some dude/dudette with less than minimal training, sketchy background check in a mall cop uniform.
    AND the general public would accept this as 'meh, the price of living in an educated, free, democratic country.'

    As an American would never believed it, I would grunt and say "that's a common setting for a dystopia movie/novel based on an extremely oppressive dictatorship."
    But here we are today.

    So pardon me, if my brows furrow up at the future possibility of VIPR teams roaming the streets of America (or ANY country, honestly) with the ability to say
    "Hey you there, pretty redhead! Hop up and spread 'em, for your safety and the safety of others, we're gonna have to require you to submit to a transvaginal ultrasound. What?! If you're refusing then you're hiding somethin'! I need back up! Surround her and don't let her get away But block all video recordings except out own!"
    While other people are lining up squealing "Oh me next! Me next! I wanna be safe too!" and congress declaring "It's just a love probe!"

    Not possible in a million years? ............I sure hope not. I want to never believe this will be possible.
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  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    It took a series of little steps, and acquiescence all the way, for us to get from taking shoes off in 2002 to taking off the rest of our clothing and accepting strangers hands over every nook and cranny of our body in 2010. It won't take that many little steps to get to what you describe, perhaps even just a single terrorist incident could get enough popular support for as invasive a search as the authorities want. Once the state is perceived as rightly having all power over the people in the state, our fate is sealed. Just take a look at other totalitarian systems and you know what is headed our way.
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  10. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    FaustsAccountant and nachtnebel have hit the nail on the head.

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  11. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    While the invasiveness measure is interesting, has anyone noticed a trend toward using TSA employees as the new standards for stupid and/or evil?

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