Arrested TSA Employee TSA officers arrested on drug charges in Conn

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Elizabeth Conley, Sep 13, 2011.

  1. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    A thug is a thug is a sociopath. There is no boundary violation a thug will not commit. Criminal versatility is consistant trait among the ranks of thugs everywhere, throughout time:

    This is the personality type the DHS is actively seeking and conditioning to abuse us. They commit crimes of all types. This is simply what thugs do.

    If we continue to permit our Federal government's current lawlessness, we will be saddled with these thugs at every public transportation hub and every public street.
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I left a comment there.
  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    TSA employees would never plant real drugs on passengers just to harass them. They might use them as unwitting mules, but the harassment stuff is reserved for the fake drugs.

    Using the real thing for harassment would just cut into their profits.
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  4. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Just saw the link on Drudge. No detail in the story.

    I'm sure Blogdad Bob will ignore this also. As a matter of fact he has been real quiet lately.

    Something is terribly wrong when any one organization has as much criminal activity as does TSA.

    Time to drain the tub and give it a good scrubbing.
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  5. rockon

    rockon Original Member

    Three TSA employees, and no one SS:SS - amazing! How do these folks do it?

    And they not only had background checks, they are 'held to the highest professional standards!'

    I hope they report what the TSA employee functions were (TSO, BDO, STSO).

    Why is it that after a failed event (underwear bomber, LGA bomb plot, shoe bomber, Chechen women) we see targeted over-the-top specific reactions, but there's never any evidence of similar heavy-handed retaliatory shifts in procedures after a particularly outrageous TSO screw-up - well, nothing that inconveniences or punishes the TSOs instead of the travellers.
  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    LOL! I know, it hit me right after I'd hit the Submit button. So much for my half-baked snark!
  7. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

  8. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Geeze, I came racing home this afternoon to post this and find it's already been done!

    Three more "bad apples" contaminating the whole barrel.

    In birdwatching, we say "if you see one hummingbird, it's a good bet at least 5 more are around." If this were translated to screeners, how would it read?
  9. THawk996

    THawk996 Original Member

    The Orlando Sentinel article below has the complete list of people arrested. The arrested include:,0,3123820.story
  10. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    There was a report just a few minutes ago on CNN that a TSA employee at Newark airport is walking around pushing an empty wheelchair asking people if she could "help" them whether they needed a wheelchair or not and would get them through security much faster than if they had to stand in line. A reporter was curious so took her up on the offer and was whisked through security - apparently when he was brought to the head of the line he simply stood up and went through security. The TSA employee mentioned that since she helped him perhaps he would help her so he gave her $5 which was apparently not enough and she got upset and demanded more money. What bothers me about this story is that nobody knows this woman's name which seems strange to me that a reporter wouldn't make a note of that.
  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    There's a thread devoted to this story -- I forget the title now -- posted at TUG yesterday or a few days ago. It's a scam. In fact, maybe search "scam" in the search box.
  12. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    Thanks Lisa I found it. Been out of the loop for awhile.
  13. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Bullcrap Bob says that was a "skycap," not a TSA employee.

    One wonders why none of the TSA employees at the checkpoint seemed to have a problem with the scam, though - maybe she was cutting them in on the action, which would explain why $5 wasn't enough for her.
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  14. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I'm telling you, the TSA offers sociopaths their dream job, and criminal versatility goes with the disorder. The more you compare the typical sociopath to the typical TSA employee, the more you see the pattern.

    Just observe them online:

    1. How many stupid lies have you caught "TSO"s in, yet they remain unembarrassed? A normal would hang his head in shame and never be heard from again. A "TSO" pretends it never happened.

    2. How about empathy?

    3. How many times have you seen one "lose it" and post things that are obscene and/or combative. Out of the blue, profanity.

    4. How about the TSA employee who sexually assaulted the "Advice Goddess", then got in a snit and tried to sue because her victim told people about the crime. Notice the TSA employee didn't deny she assaulted her victim, (impulsivity, lack of self-control), she just objected to being outed. The TSA employee denied responsibility for the natural consequences of her crime. She didn't see being outed as a consequence of assaulted the "Advice Goddess". She blamed her victim for the consequences of her own behavior. Classic sociopathic style there.

    There's more. Look for the pattern. It's there. Once you see a few things, the entire pattern starts to emerge.

    This is powerful stuff. It means that we can absolutely predict that an unusually high percentage of TSA employees will commit certain crimes and exhibit certain types of behavior. Those who keep track of TSA criminal activity are absolutely on the right track.

    No one can get the sociopathic TSA employees to refrain from stealing, lying, assaulting citizens, and dreaming up schemes to commit various crimes such as drug smuggling and accepting bribes. This is what sociopaths do. I'd feel sorry for John Pistole and Janet Napolitano, but they are getting what they deserve here. They hired these people to commit boundary violations against citizens, without thinking about the personality type most comfortable with committing boundary violations.

    Less than 3 % of people in a normal population have these issues. I wouldn't care to guess what the percentage of sociopaths in the TSA is, but a person doesn't have to be a full-blown case in order for the role of TSA clerk to be a dangerous temptation. If the rate is even twice as high as in the general population, the TSA is doomed to disgrace after disgrace.

    If statistics are gathered about the employment of domestic violence perps in a municipality, the TSA employees can be expected to show up in disproportionate numbers. Ditto for other crimes that involve interpersonal conflict and lack of self-control.

    Just as absent minded bibliophiles like myself can be counted on to earn heavy library fines, TSA employees can be counted on to have temper tantrums, abuse others, steal, lie and dream up scams. Start to document what they do, and the TSA will feel the heat.

    Like I said earlier: knowing they're sociopaths is knowledge. Knowledge is power.

    May as well harness that power.

    PS (Thurs, 15Sep11): I see good people; they're everywhere! That's what makes the sociopaths stick out like tar on a white picket fence. They're definitely not good, and the difference is starkly apparent. We have to be conditioned by social convention not to see them.Once we choose to start seeing what is, instead of what should be, the sociopaths are impossible to miss.
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  15. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    I agree. It becomes a culture of abuse. Once these types gain some low level measure of control, the good ones leave and the abusive ones pile up until they represent the entire organization.

    Pistole thought he was protecting his turf by unionizing these thugs, figuring that Congress couldn't privatize TSA if they were union. He may have miscalculated given the situation at USPS. They are going to cut up to 100,000 employees.

    What he has succeeded in doing is hamstringing himself and his successor by placing a union rep between TSA management and any disciplinary action that doesn't involve a criminal indictment by the local police or FBI. He and Nappy have been an absolute disaster and the consequences will likely be felt for years to come, even if reform is introduced.
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  16. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Why should we assume that Nappy and Pissy aren't just like the employees at TSA?
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  17. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    That was my thought also, BD.
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  18. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    They are something slightly different, perhaps due to their significantly above average intelligence. Impulsive behavior and tantrums would not get them to their current positions in life. They are cold and calculating, like spiders weaving webs. If they are on this spectrum, then they are psychopaths.

    If I was part of a Senate or Congressional Committee and wanted to confirm this, I'd look for college room-mates that committed suicide, administrative assistants on anti-depressants and tortured family pets from childhood. I can't think of a benefit to such research. These are the kind of people a wise person won't work with or marry. Outside of that - who cares? They either commit crimes or they don't. These two are smart. They're probably lifelong experts in CYA.

    Keep in mind that I'm no criminal psychologist. That being said, where the DHS and the TSA is concerned, "the shoe" definitely fits.
  19. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Ditto. Pistole has instituted this policy. This is his. Napolitano is incompetent and clueless; not making excuses for her, just pointing out that this is Pistole's policy. He's at fault here. He is one sick, twisted being.

    And just reiterating that Zimbardo's and Milgram's experiments demonstrated that you don't have to start with a pool of abnormal, sociopathic people. On the contrary. Most people -- sad fact but true -- most people, when put in positions of unlimited power and authority, will behave sociopathically.

    That's not to say that authoritarian jobs don't attract the already power-hungry; of course they do. But I think we're barking up the wrong tree if we imply that the TSA has more goons on average than any other profession. And I think it weakens our argument. There are sadistic bankers, sadistic writers, sadistic physicians, sadistic stevedores, sadistic engineers, sadistic bricklayers, sadistic hedge fund managers, etc. There are sadistic people in all walks of life. The extreme danger comes when they are put in positions of unlimited power and control.
  20. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I hope those who are more liberal among us will realize that both Nappy and Pissy will likely remain in place should O get reelected. I suggest it is your patriotic duty to do your part to keep that from happening.

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