TSA pilot program lets fliers speed through security checks

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Monica47, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-tsa-pilot-program-20121221,0,2191521.story

    To ease delays at airport security checkpoints, theTransportation Security Administration has launched a pilot program that lets average travelers hurry to their planes without having to remove their shoes or take liquids out of their carry-ons.
    But there are a couple of hurdles: The travelers first have to get past an explosive-sniffing dog and a TSA agent who is specially trained to detect suspicious behavior.
    The program, dubbed Managed Inclusion, is being tested at the Tampa, Fla., and Indianapolis international airports. TSA Administrator John Pistole said he hopes to expand the program next year. There's no word yet on when it might come to Southern California.
    The TSA currently operates “PreCheck” security lines in 35 airports, including Los Angeles International and Orange County's John Wayne airports. The lines are reserved for pre-screened travelers who are members of an airline or hotel loyalty program or have paid $100 to enroll in a screening program through U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
    The PreCheck lines move much faster than regular security lines because travelers don’t have to remove shoes, belts or coats and can leave their computers and liquid containers in their carry-on bags.
    Under the new pilot program, regular travelers who do not qualify for the PreCheck program can be invited to use the faster PreCheck lines but only if they get past an explosives-sniffing dog and a behavior detection officer, who will ask questions to look for suspicious behavior.
    “What Managed Inclusion means is … if there’s not many people going through the PreCheck lane and there’s a long line at the regular queue, can we somehow identify those people as being lower risk and offer them the opportunity to go through PreCheck?” Pistole said.
     
  2. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    have to get past an explosive sniffing dog and a crotch sniffing TSA clerk.

    "Somehow, we can identify lower risk people"??? WTF? A pizza flipper trained for a few days to ask unbelievably nosy and impudent questions will spot the bad guys. The explosives dog I get. The pizza flipper BDO is a joke. BD is voodoo to start with and improves safety not one bit. So instead of a physical molestation, we're getting mind-screwed by the BDO.
     
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  3. I'm annoyed at this new round of PreCheck articles. The headlines make it sound like TSA is doing something new and great, but it's the same thing they've been floundering around with for a year or more.

    Also, I'm still baffled as to how I would even go about getting PreCheck without shelling out several hundred dollars to outfit my family with Global Entry cards, or whatever. I can't get excited by the idea that it's possible, next time I book a flight, I might check the box by some vaguely worded statement and unknowingly have a chance at hitting the PreCheck lottery. And then, if I somehow found myself PreChecked, I'd still have to be prepared for it to fail at the checkpoint and be forced through the sexploitation gauntlet. For a PR effort, PreCheck sucks eggs.
     
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  4. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    “What Managed Inclusion means is … if there’s not many people going through the PreCheck lane and there’s a long line at the regular queue, can we somehow identify those people as being lower risk and offer them the opportunity to go through PreCheck?” Pistole said.
    No, you can't because if you could you wouldn't be scanning and/or molesting all the people you are currently. I believe this is just to get long lines moving faster so that the TSA appears to be more efficient and lower the amount of complaints from passengers. The only thing TSA can detect is whether you have something good to steal in your luggage.
     
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  5. RB

    RB Founding Member

    So if a person is not already Pre-Check then expect an interrogation by some TSA clerk with a couple of hours of extra training.

    At no time will I submit to an interrogation by government in order to travel. TSA can kiss my (expletive deleted)!
     
  6. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I think it's an attempt to move people to accept israeli type interrogations. That's not a good goal and highly unlikely to be achieved in the US. Even if BDOs were even one tenth as skilled as the israelis, which they're not.
     
  7. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    I think it's also a way to fully-employ SPOTNiks, rather than admit that the program was a big joke on the taxpayers.
     
  8. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    TSA employee: "If you would answer a few questions, we may be able to move you through the expedited line."

    N965VJ: "Sorry, I don't play Behavior Detection VooDoo games."
     
  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I hope you're right. It'll be fun to watch them warehouse the spot nuks someday, alongside the puffers and backscatters. I wonder what kind of mothballing technique they'd use. Perhaps Lucite....
     
  10. RB

    RB Founding Member

    A large dose of Pentobarbital followed by embalming fluid.
     
  11. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Don't forget that if you fail the PreCheck application you get put on yet another watch list. Pass.
     
  12. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    230 grains of Trepanizine
     
  13. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Nah, gotta be more creative. Would love to see them in an "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" scenario. We just need to fast-track AI research so we can do it.
     
  14. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Waste of technology and resources. If we can't put them on a southern-style chain gang, so that they will be of some limited use, get rid of them.
     

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