TSA Propaganda at the Baltimore Sun

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Lisa Simeone, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    More TSA propaganda about Pre-Check at the Baltimore Sun. Lots of quotes by Pistole and other gladhanders and none by critics. Maybe Sommer Gentry can chime in there about her experience after having signed up with Pre-Check and yet still stopped for a scan and grope, whereupon she made a scene, ate the cost of her ticket, and left the airport. I already left a comment:

    BWI among airports to adopt prescreening program
    Low-risk passengers can keep shoes and belts on during security checks
  2. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    And because one good propaganda turn deserves another:
    TSA aggressively expanding Pre-Check

    Incidentally, I gutted this stinking carcass back in December: TSA Pre-Check Rolls Out in Las Vegas
  3. jackonferry

    jackonferry Original Member

    Can you point me to an account of this? I searched around this morning and could not find it. I'm interested to learn more.
  4. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Click on the link at the Sun article, above.

    Or this article at TSA News: TSA Expands Pre-Check Again

    Edited to add: Oh, sorry, I just realized you meant Sommer Gentry. Okay, here ya go:

    How to Stand Up to TSA and Say No

    She's a personal friend. She told me she made a scene at the airport so that lots of people would see and hear what was going on. She has written often about her previous sexual assault at the hands of the TSA, she's unafraid to use her real name, and she's unafraid to have her story spread far and wide. She's a math professor at the U.S. Naval Academy.
  5. jackonferry

    jackonferry Original Member

    Thanks. I'm trying to get a handle on the success rate (defined as being told at the TDC they can head to expedited screening) for people who are eligible for Pre-Check. Sommer's account is unrelated to Pre-Check as far as I can tell, since Dulles does not yet participate in it. Anecdotal information from friends and colleagues who have participated in the initial trial is all over the map. One had success in 5 out of 6 trips via MIA; another has had only 2-3 of more than a dozen trips be successful via another participating airport.
  6. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Please define "success" for me. Does it mean no shoe removal, no Kippie-bag removal, no laptop removal, no scope/grope (i.e.,WTMD only), or all of the above?
  7. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Sommer is enrolled in Pre-Check and was at the time of her incident. Pre-Check didn't help her. They still wanted to scope and grope her.
  8. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    No, as I explained at TSA News: TSA Expands Pre-Check Again
  9. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    And in my book, the program is not only ineffective, not only propaganda (think the wealthy 9/11 guys couldn't have gotten into Pre-Check?), but it is ethically indefensible.
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  10. RB

    RB Founding Member

    TSA is bragging about a select few people not having to remove their kippie bag, take out their laptop, take off their shoes, take off their belt, or remove a light jacket under this so-called Pre Check program.

    Shouldn't this be policy for everyone since very little (NO) gain in security is accomplished by doing these things?
  11. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    How does this not run afoul of "Equal treatment under the law"?...
  12. jackonferry

    jackonferry Original Member

    It's complicated, there's no such thing as Pre-Check membership; rather each ticket/trip you buy is given a risk score. The risk score is derived from a number of factors, including information about you (how much you fly, whether you are a Global Entry etc member, and so forth), your destination, fellow travelers on the same flight, possibly the plane type [big vs small], and, frankly, who knows what else. If your trip gets a low risk score, it will be embedded in the bar code of your boarding pass. At the ID check, you will be directed to expedited security that (from most reports) involves all of the things noted above. International itineraries do not seem to be eligible for expedited screening at this point.

    To date, the program (called Pre-Check) is operating only for certain airlines (Delta, American and one or two others), at certain airports (MIA, LAS and 4-5 more), and for certain travelers (high volume flyers, people who are enrolled in CBP's Global Entry, Nexus or Sentri programs, and a few other categories). So at this point, unless you are traveling on one of those airlines and entering security at one of those airports, you're not going to experience Pre-Check, even if you are a high volume flyer or a member of GE. In other words, Sommer's trip through Dulles could not have involved Pre-Check because the program is not fielded at Dulles yet.

    In the coming months, Pre-Check extends to additional airlines and airports. It will be a pretty big expansion, which gets to one of the things I'm interested in: as the program expands, will a greater or lesser percentage of passengers' trips result in expedited screening? One of the things that will help keep the focus on broader reforms at TSA is if people don't get expedited screening under Pre-Check with any great frequency.

    As a side note, you can (as an American citizen) enroll in Global Entry for $100 (good for 5 years). It involves an extensive application and in-person interview. And, given how Pre-Check has been structured, it offers no guarantee that you will get expedited screening very often, if at all. Still, it might be worth the investment.
  13. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Let's not forget all of the data sharing that goes with that.
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  14. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    I'm tempted to email the reporter and ask how TSA dick tastes. :td:
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  15. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Frank I double dog dare you
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  16. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    *chants* Dooooo it dooooo it dooooo it!
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  17. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Or you could ask how their olfactory center is reacting to being embedded in the collective gluteal cleft of the TSA.
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  18. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

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  19. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Yes, that remark floored me. She's obviously among the elite who don't have a clue that the peons even exist.
  20. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Kate Hanni is all about Kate Hanni. She can do good work when she wants to, but that hasn't happened lately. Her biggest benefit probably is not what she's done for us but what all that publicity has done for her real estate business. That's why we don't push her here at TUG.

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