TSA re-establishes Aviation Security Advisory Committee

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by LeapingFrogs, Jul 8, 2011.

  1. LeapingFrogs

    LeapingFrogs Original Member

    Here's a quiet little article I just stumbled on. I don't know anything about the previous role this committee played. But the criteria for being appointed is interesting. Since the TSA gets to choose who serves, I can't imagine it would do much good... BUT, maybe there's a modicum of good in this? Or at least it's a veiled admission by the TSA that they need help? Or maybe not... but interesting none-the-less.

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  2. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    This could be a result of the TSA getting heavy criticism from grass-roots organizations over things like LASP.

    What's odd is there seems to be no interest in hearing from other venues that the TSA is encroaching on such as trains, buses, highways, outdoor events, etc.
  3. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Interesting indeed. Unfortunately, the members are appointed by Pistole who will select sympathizers that will whitewash over any deficiencies within the agency. My prediction is that the Committee will conclude that the agency is doing almost everything right, almost everyone thinks the procedures are needed and come out with a few useless recommendations that won't materially improve the checkpoint experience. It will probably end suggesting something like switching from blue gloves to green and patting themselves on the back.

    The members will likely come from the airlines who are as culpable in this as TSA by quietly acquiescing to this. They are in the best position to demand change and lobby Congress but have the luxury of being able to tell their customers that none of this is their fault, it is all TSA and they are just following regulations. Meanwhile, they continue to fleece the same victims with baggage fees, re-booking fees, seat fees, $1 peanuts and the like. There is no incentive for them to rock the boat and TSA provides great cover by drawing most of the fire.

    Victims have generally overlooked complaining to the airlines and making this their problem so TSA is only getting pressure from loosely organized groups like this or disjointed civil rights organizations making independent runs at them. Until there is a sizable coalition demanding change, the only mechanism remains public opinion spurred on by reports of TSA abuses and crimes.
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  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Executive summary: It will be a self-appointed mutual admiration society. They can't handle being told they're doing anything wrong.
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  5. The 6th Floor

    The 6th Floor Original Member

    I can't see it doing much good. Just another layer of bureaucracy, more money tossed into a black hole for what in return? With all the criticism of the TSA, especially at airports it's possible they will provide "recommendations" to Pissy and Sissy but I really see nothing worthwhile coming from the reestablishment of the ASAC. One article I read stated, "Under the FAA, ASAC functioned well for over ten years, met more frequently, and was more productive. Under TSA, ASAC met less frequently from 2004-2006, when TSA inactivated the Committee" (source).
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  6. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    It will be a circle of jerks and you can edit that any way you like. This is the TSA. They will just ratify whatever stupid decision the crack smokers in that agency come up with. And if the "advisory" committee doesn't ratify what TSA wants, the advice will be ignored.

    The real "advisory" committee is the budget committees in Congress. With huge, huge cuts that must and WILL be made, what are the odds that the blue shirt bag monkeys will continue to get carte blanche to peep, grope, and intimidate the very people who are approving their budgets? The machines and staffing are expensive. Their numbers won't be expanded, and current levels probably won't be maintained, with numbers of them dropping over time. The AIt machines are simply a stop gap.
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  7. The 6th Floor

    The 6th Floor Original Member

    With the fear being instilled on the American public in the name safety at the airports it's surprising we have seen some cuts in the TSA funding. It won't take but another type of terrorist activity (or false flag) to see Congress do an about face on funding and start providing more funds in the name of aviation safety. It's shocking now to see the amount of money we continue to throw at the TSA.
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  8. halls120

    halls120 Original Member

    ^^ TSA has a demonstrated history of rejecting the conclusions of real aviation security professionals. I have no doubt this committee will be stacked with TSA lapdogs who will ask "how high" every time Pistole says jump.

    Napolitano and her Arizona mafia are incredibly thin skinned and do not tolerate free thought within DHS.
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  9. SafeButFree

    SafeButFree Original Member

    Another manifestation of state capitalism? The suits and the goons sit down and make plans about what to do to the riffaff?

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