TSA search of valet-parked cars [ROC]

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by KrazyKat, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

  2. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Front and center on Drudge. Getting the popcorn ready.:popcorn:
  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Been thinking about this. Where does TSA derive any authority to conduct a search of people or their property if that person or property is not trying to gain access to the sterile area? Seems to me that the boundary between the non-sterile area and the sterile area is where TSA's authority ends. In my opinion this is nothing less than an illegal warrantless search and those TSA employees who started this should be charged and prosecuted along with any TSA employees who took part or gave direction to others to do these things.
  4. TSA News Blog

    TSA News Blog News Feed

    It can’t be said often enough: the TSA isn’t law enforcement. The TSA isn’t law enforcement.
    This isn’t my opinion speaking; it’s a fact.
    Yet the TSA has apparently started searching parked cars at the airport.
    Laurie Iacuzza walked to her waiting car at the Greater Rochester International Airport after returning from a trip and that’s when she found it — a notice saying her car was inspected after she left for her flight. She said, “I was furious. They never mentioned it to me when I booked the valet or when I picked up the car or when I dropped it off.”​
    Iacuzza’s car was inspected by valet attendants on orders from the TSA. But why only valet parked cars? That’s what News10NBC wanted to ask the TSA director about. We reached him by phone.​
    But hey, they left a nice note on the dashboard.
    Anyway, in the end, Iacuzza doesn’t mind:
    Iacuzza said she doesn’t mind the security measure. She just wants to be told if her car is getting searched.​
    Oh, well, what the (expletive deleted)? We have no 4th Amendment anymore inside the airport; as some of us have been saying for years now, it was only a matter of time before we didn’t have it outside as well.
    Just desserts, chickens coming home to roost, and all that. And the United Sheeple of America continue to yawn.
  5. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    So the TSA is ordering wholly-untrained parking valets to search vehicles for WEI? Seriously?

    I mean, granted the valets are smarter than the average TSA idiots, but really? A gubbermint agency is ordering civilians to look for bombs?
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  6. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Maybe TSA is just looking for valuables to steal and fence. Really, seems to be the most accomplished act for many TSA clerks.
  7. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Since TSA has no authority to search my car. any TSA employees seen snooping around my car are highly likely to getting to know Mr C.T. Kimber and his 230 gr friends.

    I had a airport employee snooping around my car and some others at a smaller airport in North Texas, before I could do anything 5 sheriffs deputies showed and did a felony stop.

    This :trash: gotta stop.
  8. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Don't know who this valet company is but I would suggest a boycott until they go broke.
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  9. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    That's the weird part. These aren't TSA employees carrying out the searches in the cars - they're just the valets.
  10. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    And this "weird part" is exactly why it is illegal as (expletive deleted). :mad: The valet-bozos do not have the authority to search your car, even if the TSA (Trashing Several Ammendments) told them to do it.:rolleyes:
  11. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    From Reason, on TSA's search *rationale*: "the car could be [near front of airport] for a half hour or an hour so there is a vulnerability":
  12. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Oh, woow! You mean that airport employee parking lots should get the same scrutiny, no, even more, since they are probably just as close or closer???:confused:
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    That was my first reaction when I saw the headline -- more opportunities for five-finger discounts.
  14. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Quality control at TSA News Blog needs another kick in the pants.
  15. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    I call bull :trash:, the vulnerability is in there head, there's more vulnerabilities in the 50 feet around the checkpoint and the illusion it creates then from the parking garage.

    I would dare TSA to attempt to tamper with my car ... that would open a box that would make Pandora's box look like a pleasant experience.

  16. I can think of a number of airports where non-valet parking is directly adjacent to the airport, or right out front. TUS, SMF, ANC, OAK, and LAS are just a few that come to mind in my sphere. PDX, I think, too. Why would a bad guy leave something that could go boom in a car handed over to a valet parker? It would be way more effective to lock your bomb safely in a car parked in regular parking.

    Interesting that the note she held up said the car was searched "under TSA regulations." What CFR is that, pray tell? These valet guys should be careful when somebody tells them they're required to violate somebody's rights. I suspect they wouldn't have the whatchmacalit government worker immunity that allows them to violate our rights because they're "just following orders" if somebody decided to sue.
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  17. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Chuckie Schumer is concerned:


    BTW, it looks as were Peter King can be taken off the list of replacements for Nappy. He's thinking of running for president. God save us all.
  18. Reason's J.D. Tuccille got a buck-passing response from the TSA about the valet searches:

    It Wasn't Us, TSA Says of Car Searches at the Rochester, NY, Airport

  19. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    And pray tell, for the giant kiosk saying the same thing.

    TSA's John McCafferty should explain the reg delegating non-existent curbside search authority to valets! Explain the TSA training program for the valets checking trunks, engines, and scanning car interiors for......oh yeah, for "large amounts of explosives", and the protocol for what do do when they find things that look like:
    Drugs and finders-keepers more like it.
    If you *consent* to search because you have your car parked, does that mean your (missing) valuables aren't really stolen? :rolleyes: They are trying to see what they can get away with for both searches and evidence. Stop it cold.
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  20. Geez, no kidding. The farther you think down the path of this logic, the crazier it becomes. Are the valets prepared to accidentally blow themselves up? Or more likely, to be accused of thefts of all sorts? Has anybody thought this through to any extent?

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