Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by RB, Jul 18, 2012.
How soon before PV's weekly roundup comes out to move the feeding tube story down the list?
5 4 3 2 1......
One of these days Blogdad Bob is going to do this to the wrong person/family.
Then he's going to have to figure out how to do his so-called job with smashed hands and his jaw wired shut.
How do you figure? (seriously, all snide comments aside)
Are you that dense...nevermind that was a rhetorical question for which the answer is well known. "not supposed to handle it that way" "all procedures were followed" along with the blame the victim (expletive deleted)... really. Then considering since TSA wont say what the procedures are by hiding behind a "classification" that the rest of the government laughs at in TSAs face no less.
Then while were at it how much you want to bet the gloves used by this group of braintrust rejects were not changed before doing this and probably had worn them for hours which means they were probably a peitree dish of fecal, urine, seminal fluid, nasal discharge, flem, MRSA, VRE, MDRO and other germs (like that have been found at CPs around the US and on smurfs gloves I have taken from them and had tested) that now are in this persons port and skin. Way to go TSA your killing your customer base. If this person gets sick there lawyer will have a field day suing TSA for "practicing medicine w/o a license" and medical bills and expenses related to that care. Heck Ill even drop a dime to the lawyer and give him the swab test results I have from KDFW and KDAL checkpoints just to prove a point.
Let me put a little more simply; I work around medical ports (g-tube, j tubes, mickey buttons, subdermal & external med ports, dialysis shunts, permacaths, IJ/EJ/PICC lines and a laundry list of others) all the time. 99% (other 1% of the time its life over limb situations) of the time using sterile gloves and technique as patients with these type of ports are normally very sick and immune systems compromised and Im there to help not hurt the person im caring for.
If I pulled the stunt TSA did... loosing my patch and license would be the least of my worries as my medical director would throw me under the bus to the plaintiffs lawyer in less time then a QRS complex.
According to the releases I have read, Luis simply said that handling the tube is not what is supposed to happen. Then Thursday, they released that procedures had been followed, and then clarified with what was written in the blog post yesterday. There is no lie in that conversation, merely a statement that what was being stated is in fact wrong, then later what was being stated was not what actually happened.
I fail to understand your question.
Confirmation of lying.
Whatever helps you sleep at night!
Quoted from the Dallas NBC story:
We have a direct statements from the victim and her husband that TSA screeners did swab the tube. Is it TSA's claim that this statement is false Rugape?
We also have a statement from Luis Casanova that swabbing the tube is not suppose to happen. Clearly implied is that it did happen.
Now we have the TSA Blog post by Bob Burns.
Perhaps that is TSA policy but we know TSA fails to follow policy on a regular basis. Take JFK and three elderly ladies for example.
Would have telling the screener there was a medical device caused the alarm to not go off and no resolution required. A clearly misleading statement intended to deflect blame.
The victim claims she was not in a private room but only behind a screen.
[QUOTE]Contrary to what is being reported, the individual was not asked or required to remove her clothing at any time. [/QUOTE]
Is TSA claiming that the victim is being dishonest?
I strongly suspect that Bob Burns had no part in writing the TSA response posted to the TSA Blog which would be a good thing since Bob Burns has proven that he seems to be totally lacking in personal integrity and honesty. However, since Bob Burns did place his name on the TSA response he must take ownership for that piece which does nothing except call a traveler and spouse liars and once again claims TSA did nothing wrong.
My question to you Rugape, is it TSA's claim that the Deaton's lied about the encounter with TSA?
He can't answer that question, RB, because he wasn't there and has no personal knowledge of what happened.
from PV: "...patted down the area around her feeding tube, as required by our standard operating procedures. At no time did an Officer touch the feeding tube area."
Either they touched the area around the feeding tube or they did not.
Rugape is either a company man or not. His choice.
Since we are looking for some truth today can I ask that you take the time to respond to my questions on the TSA Blog Deaf Person thread. It was the message I posted on July 16, 2012 4:55 PM.
TSA is like the rapist who blames the victim. They insist on lying even when no one anywhere believes them.
That is the definition of "pathological liar".
Not all pathological liars are TSA employees.
But all TSA employees are pathological liars.
Mrs. Deaton said in one of the news reports that she's flown several times with the tube before and that previously she told the TSA what is was and it was patted on the OUTSIDE of her clothing and she was sent on her way. WHY would she lie about this particular experience? She was not expecting anything different from the TSA than how they handled her tube before. This particular TSA agent screwed up and as usual the TSA is covering her (expletive deleted).
Don't expect an answer from anyone with TSA.
Denial and blame shifting, yes. Calling the public liars, yes.
Taking owenership in TSA problems, never.
Separate names with a comma.