TSA-style checks at movie theaters?

Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Caradoc, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Nope, but let's face it: we don't need to go to the theater. It would take very, very little to convince me never to darken a movie theater door again. I'm so up in arms about the cost of concessions that even one more slight inconvenience would drive me away from the theaters, never to return.

    They'd better not push their luck. I think theaters would be much safer if law abiding citizens could be legally armed. If I thought armed lunatics attacking theater patrons was a real problem, I'd boycott until they removed any and all restrictions against concealed and open carry at my local theater.

    The gun control loons are some of the dumbest sheeple on the planet. It's natural and right that such dolts get mown down by police state fascists or drug addled lunatics. Sensible people were created for better things.
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  2. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Based on the current surge in anti-gun law outcries, that will be an ongoing situation for a month or so. Everytime something like this happens, tons of people that own guns purchase tons of supplies just in case there is a change in the laws forced through on the heels of the incident. It happened after Columbine and VA Tech shootings, but not quite as much as I have been seeing this time around. People are truly beginning to fear that the public at large are beginning to shift from a pro-gun or neutral "who am I to tell someone law-abiding that they can't have a gun" position to easing into restrictions on types of weapons/clips/ammo.
  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    The "gun control loons" are topped by the TSA employees and apologists in sheer stupidity and wrong-headedness.
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  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Alex Jones (whose site trumpets the false flag scenario) screams wolf every chance he's got, pretty much close to zero credibility. But on this one, the timing is conveniently close to the UN gun treaty. The "Fast and Furious" fiasco provides ample evidence that this administration will do illegal things to score points against the 2nd Amendment folks, with Eric Holder on record as supporting any type of propaganda to change people's perception about guns.

    A few more of these would start turning the public into supporting more draconian gun laws. Already Scalia is hinting that he'd support some "reasonable" restrictions.
  5. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    It's the myth of Baldur, the Norse god whose death was foretold, and in response to which everything on earth was neutralized to protect him. Of course, someone forgot to cover the case of mistletoe, out of which some wise guy made an arrow... Humans think they can pass laws to protect themselves from every dangerous thing...

    So England completely bans all guns and now has a situation where 70% of all burglaries are home invasions because the crooks know nobody is armed. And yet, further, England nonetheless, despite the complete ban, suffers from growing gun crimes including use of fully automatic weapons, a condition which has resulted in the arming of the English police force.

    There is apprehension of the people owning firearms in the coming financial reset of our society, in which social promises which could not be kept are definitively rejected, where new currencies, smaller benefits, higher taxes are in our future, probably commencing in the next two years or sooner. Which apprehension is a strange fear because most people are instinctively law-abiding, yet such is the paranoia on the part of the authorities, who don't seem to understand the people anymore.
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  6. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    It's worse than that. You pick up any kind of tool to defend yourself from the home invasion robbery and you yourself have a date with the Crown Prosecution Service. Homeowners have been prosecuted, convicted, and imprisoned for thinking they have the right to defend themselves from the hooligans.

    I have been offered consulting gigs in the UK. In each case I demanded triple rate for hazardous duty just because of this.
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  7. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    According to this shops owner ever since obummer got into office sales have been increasing rapidly. The combo of the UN stupidity and CO shooting that sent it into high gear. You are right but based on how this administration has been acting anything is possible and he has proven it with rhetoric and false flags. Restricting or banning anything is not going to stop squat, as criminals dont follow the laws. If they cant use one method they will use another so its stupid.

    clips...clips you needing something to hold up your hair?

    Frank - Ill have to remember that one as I have gotten a couple of contract offers for UK/Eastern Europe but passed them up. I would be one of those that would probably get charged as in my house I will protect myself by any means possible - .
  8. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I agree, the current administration has caused an uptick in the sales of everything firearm related - any time we have had anti-firearm oriented top government that has been the case, but this time it seems to have been a much larger scale of increase. It increases everytime there is an incident of some loony shooting people in public. Taking away guns will always make certain that only criminals have guns, period. Every country that I know of, that has serious restrictions on firearms, has a larger problem with home invasions and gun related crime because the average citizen has less of a means to defend themselves. The Blaze had a really good article on the stats since the current administration came into office here = http://www.theblaze.com/stories/mig...greatest-gun-salesman-in-america-take-a-look/

    Hehe, thanks top, my terminology has been slipping since I have been in the civvie realm (and I am rapidly approaching shabby hair length, but not quite long enough for a clip yet - plus a planned visit to the local barber next week will alleviate the need for a fairly good period as well). Just as a side note, some of the proposed regulations (mostly the older ones) were aimed at targeting the old slide clips (remember those chucklenuggets? and using them to load a 30 rounder? I personally have scars on my fingers from using those torture devices), limiting them to 5 or 10 rounds each depending on caliber - the idea (supposedly) was to make it more difficult to load a large capacity magazine to the limit... Which is about as smart as trying to explain to the gun that it is not, in fact, an inanimate object.
  9. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    I was giving you a hard time as that was a term I was broken from using by my uncles who are all retired military.

    Oh those torture devices I hate as when i was younger used to cut my fingers all the time on them. Thank good ness for speedloaders now, but if push comes to shove I can still speed load a 1911 mag by hand in less then 15 seconds I just do it with shooting gloves on.

    That article doesnt suprises me at all. I one of tens if not hundreds of thousands on the backorder list from ruger as I ordered and paid for 8 items total and being given a delivery date of late october at the earliest ( Im just glad the paperwork is done and they can be delivered to me by the FFL). Restricting to X number of rounds is stupid as not going to stop anything. best analogy i have found is " Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.
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  10. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I had a SSG squad leader in Germany that did the same thing to me, every time someone said "toss me a clip" they had to push until he was tired of watching them go up and down. They work, we found some ways to lessen the pain, using a flat piece of wood across the top round was usually the best that I found, but you still slipped and banged your fingers quite often. When we drew combat load to work at the Nuke site, we had to hand load 125 rounds coming on shift, and unload when we came off, and that was not the worst part, we had wooden blocks with 125 holes drilled in them that you had to pull from, and put them back. It made what should have been a 2 minute exchange into a 7-10 minute ordeal when getting off shift. I can still load just about any mag by hand fairly quickly, maybe not in your range, but better than the average Joe.

    The lists are getting longer right now, we have a Remington facility near us, and they are having trouble keeping up with their production, they added another shift earlier this year to help, but they still have some problems with back orders too. At least you are on the back end of it now. I like your analogy quite well, it suits almost perfectly.
  11. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Actually I only go that fast if I have to, and last time was in a IDPA stage where they thought that would be a nice wrinkle in things. A lot of the regulars were bitching but it was a special event that was co-sponsored by US Army marksmanship unit and they got a chance to design then final event stage. Stage was called saloon poker showdown; competitor siting at the table pistol on table 2 magazines and your rounds loose on the table. Buzzer goes off load magazines and then shoot your 15 plates I came in 3rd behind the two USAMU guys, both smoked me by 25 seconds and 2 plates. 4th (co-worker whose 10 years younger then me) in the stage was 20 seconds behind me and same score (13 plates 2 misses).

    Oh that's a back asswards way of doing this... Oh wait it's the military

    Yeah that line is from a graphic a friend sent me and I modified it a bit. I'll load it after I get done with the dentist this morning :( .

    I'm not surprised, but remmington is a company I won't buy anything from again.
  12. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    I think the fastest I ever reloaded a mag was when we were doing weapon cache raids in Haiti, not because I had to necessarily, just because I didn't want to grab an empty if I needed rounds. I haven't shot competitively since the military, it is something I would love to do, but sadly life always seems to conjure up so many things that jump over that in importance! I have a buddy in Tennessee that shoots at a turkey shoot every Friday night, he has not left empty handed for almost 15 years straight, and the last time he lost it was to a 14 year old that put 4 rounds in the same hole. We used to have some turkey shoots around here, but the area is becoming too urban at this point for many of them to continue.

    Back asswards was the way the military functioned, I mean, why would you have to idiot proof every piece of equipment made? Seriously... Every weapon past a firearm has step by step instructions and the clymores have "front towards enemy" on them. Even the heavy equipment used for earth moving and such have step by step instructions on how to use them on the dash.

    I would love to see that graphic, there are several of them running around the net and facebook right now.

    What do you dislike so much about Remington? I personally have had no problems with them and they make some decent hunting rifles.
  13. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    I just got out of the dentist and my face and teeth hurt so it's pain killer time and sleep. I'll post it after I get up as it's on my laptop.

    Going to the range for CHL drills or IDPA matches are for stress relief and decompression from work especially after a bad shift or call. That and a little friendly ribbing and competition.

    Remmington & HS percision are on my no $$$ list due to the ruby ridge FBI sniper that killed Randy weavers wife and how they use that murder as a selling point. Eotech is on that list because they are owned by L3 (makers of the porn-o-scanners).
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  14. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    That's as I see it too.

    I know the feeling. I was trying to think about when the last time was that I was in a movie theater..... I think it was to see Inception. It's just annoying to go for all of the reasons you stated above. If I really, really wanted to see a particular movie, I'd go -- but -- if airport-type security was involved, I'd turn around and go home. There's nothing out there that I want to see that badly.
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  15. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    This is the best analogy I could make for what schumer and the other anti-gun idiots trying to shove this through either as a part of the "cybersecurity bill ". Only thing that would have stop the CO shooting from happening was for there not to be draconian gun bans, where if a threat appears a person can properly defend themselves and others.


    Well Schumer and cronies the jokes on you as that bill looks to be taking a facedive. That and Friday I will be getting 15 brand new 30rd 5.56 magpul P-Mags, along with more then a few cases of ammo, while im enroute to Tac-pro for a mini long range shooting class.
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  16. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    It's "natural and right that such dolts get mown down"??

    Wow. Just wow.

    Thanks for revealing what you think should happen to me and people like me.
  17. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    We're not going to agree on gun control.

    It's one thing to choose to be defenseless, it's another to demand others accept the same sorry lot in life. Frankly, I find such a position morally indefensible as well as entirely meritorious of a Darwin Award.

    So yes, we disagree.

    People do disagree you know. Often vehemently. Hopefully you can get past this.
  18. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    No kidding we disagree. But I don't wish for you to get "mown down." And if I did, I sure as (expletive deleted) would be smart enough not to put it in print.
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  19. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I don't "wish" for you to get mown down either. Save the drama for your mama. I'm not playing along with this silliness any more.
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  20. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    She's speaking symbolically but that's exactly what happens. Gun violence prospers in areas where there is gun control, e.g. Chicago where 17 residents were "mown down" Saturday night:

    Chicago Tribune: 1 dead, 16 wounded in shootings across the city

    A man was killed and at least 16 others were shot across the city Saturday evening and this morning, continuing a streak of violence that has left dozens wounded in recent days.

    Some may claim that God never makes mistakes, but I would have to contend that neither sheep nor lemmings are well designed.
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