Discussion in 'Civil Rights & Privacy' started by Caradoc, Jul 20, 2012.
Sheep are well designed for wolves.
Sheep and lemmings are well-designed prey. (not that God ever needs defending)
A square meal covered in dental floss. What could be more perfect? I'm tellin' ya, the Guy Upstairs thinks of everything!
I'm waiting for you two to rationalize lemmings.
My sainted father, may he rest in peace, always claimed "Even the worst of us may serve, if only as a bad example."
That's the valuable function of lemmings. They serve as a bad example.
Thank you for posting this, Mike. I wish some more of our fearfull leaders would make this connection. It saddens me to think of the carnage that goes on in Chicago, when all the fearful leaders have to do is make it easier for law-abiding citizens to own -- and carry at all times -- hand guns and other defensive weapons. It just makes me sick that the people and their leaders do not see the damage being done by handgun control legislation.
Yep. Gun control laws are fine for imaginary utopias, but they are a recipe for tragedy everywhere else.
Plus they're great in Meringue pies.
Lemmings were pushed over the cliff by Disney photographers.
EMS Rule #1: You can't cure stupid.
The thing about gun confiscation measures is that it only removes guns from law-abiding citizens. Criminals keep their guns and acquire more. The law-abiding turn in their weapons, many of them family heirlooms, to larcenous authorities.
What kind of government fears law-abiding citizens? Obviously, only an organized crime ring masquerading as legitimate government and planning future crimes against its citizens has anything to fear from law-abiding citizens owning firearms. Who can trust such a "government"? Not I. It's just not logical or sane to trust an individual or organization that can not be comfortable associating with you unless you're defenseless. Such an entity should be highly suspect to any adult with a modicum of life experience. It's one thing for a child to trust such an entity, or even a moron. One has few experiences to draw from, the other has a limited capacity to learn. The rest of us have no excuse for abandoning common sense and personal responsibility. Trusting a government that insists on making its citizens vulnerable is suicidal.
I am always amazed at "liberals" who while fearing and hating the police (probably rightfully these days) nevertheless rely on the police for their protection. Not altogether too bright.
God helps those who help themselves. If you want help with winning the lottery, buy a ticket and help God out. If you want protection from criminals, learn how to defend yourself and carry the means.
I respect pacifists. They choose a way that is right for them, but respect the rights of others to choose a different path. A true pacifist is a person of immense courage.
I find it morally indefensible for anyone to attempt to disarm law-abiding U.S. citizens. Life and death decisions should be made based on facts, not emotions. It's just plain unethical to permit hysteria to trump reason when gambling with the lives of others.
I have a concealed carry permit. I own and know how to use certain weapons. I would like the anti-gunners to tell me how many illegal shootings are done by people who are legally able to carry verus those who have not taken the steps to lawfully carry.
The one change I would like to see is not concealed carry but open carry. If I was a cop I think I would rather see who is armed. Of course the criminals would still carry concealed.
The value to a concealed carry permit is that it allows gun owners to be reasonably relaxed about whether their weapon is visible or not. People have been accused of carrying a concealed weapon just because their garment partially obscured the weapon. Better to have the concealed weapon permit, so that an unethical "officer" can't trump up a "concealed weapon" charge.
I rarely carry a gun. When I do it's almost always a black powder muzzle loader which is pretty much impossible to conceal. This doesn't mean that I'm not painfully aware that a "concealed weapon" allegation can be spun out of the most innocent of circumstances. I don't think of any guns we may or may not own in terms of self-defense, but more in terms of their value to our children's education and our family history.
I am serious about self-defense, but shooting people is something I try to avoid. Shooting folks is very messy, very noisy, and the paperwork goes on forever. That being said, if I was aware of a genuine threat that could be best met with a handgun, I would carry. I have that right. We all do.
Concealed carry doesn't just make the police wonder, the criminals have to guess as well, and need to be right about every person involved. I do think that concealed carry laws have had a negative impact on the view of sidearms. People see others carrying so rarely anymore, outside of law enforcement, that they are taken off guard when they do.
Still more use "state of emergency" to outright steal guns from homes. Katrina/New Orleans for example. Those four CHP thugs have yet to be extradited, even though they were filmed on CNN.
Pigs don't like open carry.
But I can medicate the heck out of it. Versed, Ativan, Ketamine, haldol
I would as well. I could go from a subcompact weapon (Ruger SR9c, Kimber EMP, Kimber Ultra Carry, and so on) to a fullsize frame (1911 frame would be my preference)
After any tragedy there are two massacres...The first is the victims of the tragedy and second by those that would make more victims for the next massacre by trying to unarm the populace. If more people had been carrying in CO that one would not have gotten that many rounds off.
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