TSA uniform perks more expensive than Marine Corps

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by KrazyKat, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Thanks to the newly ratified contract:
  2. RB

    RB Founding Member


    When will government cover the cost of my work clothes with tax monies? Seems to me that uniforms or other personal needs should come straight out of the pocket of the employee, not my pocket.

    TSA was bad enough for the country. A unionized TSA is even worse!
  3. And yet, their uniforms make their asses look worse than anybody else's in government.
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  4. FliesWay2Much

    FliesWay2Much Original Member

    I don't know what current uniform allowance rules are, but, way back in the Cold War days, a commissioned officer (a real officer) like me received a one-time uniform allowance upon commissioning. An enlisted troop received an initial as well as recurring annual allowances. An officer was expected to purchase his or her own uniforms.

    A more valid comparison, for uniform allowance purposes ONLY, is to compare allowances for military enlisted troops and TSA clerks.

    Someone with more current military experience is welcome to update my facts.
  5. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    I find the timing very suspicious...AFTER the election? (expletive deleted) yes...we wouldn't want to disclose this before people vote for more of the same! Asswipes
  6. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    You can hardly blame the uniform for its contents.
    More to look forward to:
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  7. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    My husband retired from the USMC in 1988 and it was as you've described.
  8. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    The problem isn't the uniform, it's the assess.
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  9. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    And it doesn't matter if it's the one protruding from the collar of the bright blue shirt, or the one at the bottom of the bright blue shirt.
  10. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Good. This will inevitably lead to them looking more slovenly and unprofessional than they already do and should help to diminish the degree of respect people have for them.

    (To those who have tattoos: Not saying tattoos are necessarily unprofessional-looking. It's that the caliber of employee TSA hires is the kind who will have unprofessional-looking tattoos.)
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  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    ^ Bingo!
  12. Yes, I know assess are asses. But I've seen the Oprah show. There are fashion solutions for buxom folks to be able to strut that stuff, and these uniforms are not that.
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    And from the point of view of one whose wife has already been assaulted by TSA, I don't want to see my wife further groped by someone who looks like she spends her weekends gangbanging at Hells Angels' enclaves.
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  14. Just speaking for myself here, if I had to choose getting groped by some (expletive deleted)'s Angel's old lady or some of the greasy, pimply, bad hair man-handed gals I've seen in these checkpoint videos, I would go with biker chick. That's just me, though, I enjoy Fellini-sque experiences. Admittedly, I've been watching Sons of Anarchy, I'm sure the reality would not be edgy in a cool cinematic way.
  15. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Transportation & Infrastructure Committee: TSA Labor Pact Focuses on Tie Tacks & Tattoos (Nov 9 2012)

    The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) screeners’ union ratified a collective bargaining agreement with the agency today. A Congressional report and analysis of the agreement released by the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee Chairman says TSA’s focus on security is eroded by the Administration’s decision to negotiate the largest federal labor agreement since World War II.

    U.S. Rep. and Transportation Chairman John L. Mica (R-FL) released the analysis by the Committee’s investigative staff today. To read the full report, click here.

    “Unfortunately, TSA has spent months negotiating agreements which focus on workplace grievances but ignore security performance improvements,” Mica said. “Once again TSA has failed to address mounting screening failures, even after significant security meltdowns in Newark, Honolulu, Charlotte, Orlando, Fort Myers, and elsewhere.

    “While we must respect employee rights to be represented by organized labor, TSA has failed to represent the flying public and has missed the mark on improving procedures and protocols while focusing on tie tacks and tattoos,” Mica said. “Even though the army of TSA screeners has reached a labor agreement, it is my prediction they will never be happy while they must deal with this gigantic and often mindless bureaucracy. Many of these hard-working TSA workers are being left in the lurch.”

    The Congressional analysis of the TSA labor agreement for 45,000 federal security screeners concludes that it provides few real benefits to TSA employees and only further diverts focus from TSA’s core functions of analyzing intelligence and ensuring the security of air travelers. “This agency should be devoting every available resource to improving upon its poor track record of security blunders and missteps, not diverting its attention to deals that stipulate which direction screeners can wear the brim of their hats,” Mica said.

    The decision about whether to allow union representation and collective bargaining for TSA employees was left to the discretion of the TSA Administrator when the agency was created in 2001. In January 2003, the Under Secretary of Transportation for Security Admiral James M. Loy issued an order precluding collective bargaining for TSA screeners. “Mandatory collective bargaining is not compatible with the flexibility required to wage the war against terrorism,” Loy stated at the time.

    This policy remained in effect until August 2012, when TSA Administrator Pistole announced a collective bargaining agreement with the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE). According to the Congressional Research Service, this is the largest federal bargaining unit agreement since WWII.

    While the TSA Administrator under the Obama Administration has reversed course from previous TSA leaders and agreed to allow for collective bargaining rights at TSA, the changes are unlikely to improve the nature of the bureaucracy, and some of the changes negotiated will lead to increased costs at an agency that currently spends approximately $8 billion per year on security programs, equipment and personnel.

    Under the labor agreement, TSA employees will see their uniform allowances nearly double to $446 per year. By comparison, a combat Marine Lieutenant receives a one-time uniform allowance of $400. The cost of the increase in TSA uniform allowance is an estimated $9.63 million annually.

    Additionally, the collective bargaining agreement confirms that the TSA will be allowing, and paying, employees to serve official time on a full-time basis for the union. The cost of these types of work arrangements is not known.

    “This agency continues to fail its employees and the American public by trying to manage a bloated workforce of more than 65,000, including overpaid headquarters and management staff, rather than focusing on providing the best transportation security standards, strong oversight, and more efficient, cost-effective security,” Mica said.
  16. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    Shorts? Really? Because they work so hard and long pants would be too restrictive or uncomfortable? We had better uniform standards when I worked as a server at my local Red Lobster. And we didn't get any uniform allowance either.
  17. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Where are our shots of the color guard when we need them?
    With Veteran's Day coming up, we might get more pix to illustrate the bodies, offensive uniforms, and other dress-up attire. TSA makes note that 25% are reserve or veterans. Their theme for VD? "Continuing to Serve"-- Tyranny!
  18. RB

    RB Founding Member

    They work inside for fricken sake. Just how tuff can that be? I say ship all their fat asses to Syria and let these screeners feel up those people.
  19. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Send them to Iran where perhaps they can distract attention from real homesexuals who should not be persecuted.
  20. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Also check out the photo & caption at Boing Boing ...

    Boing Boing: TSA inspectors get a larger annual clothing allowance that Marine lieutenants get through their whole careers

    Under their new collective bargaining agreement, Transportation Security Administration officers get to spend more taxpayer money on their uniforms every year than a United States Marine Corps lieutenant can spend in a lifetime.

    “TSA employees will see their uniform allowances nearly double to $446 per year,” the House Transportation Committee noted in a press release on the TSA’s new collective bargaining agreement. “By comparison, a combat Marine Lieutenant receives a one-time uniform allowance of $400. The cost of the increase in TSA uniform allowance is an estimated $9.63 million annually.”​

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