I'm not going anywhere, unless it would be helpful to TUG if I left. If LeeAnne is angry with me as well as RB, then there may not be a whole lot anyone can do about it. It's by no means clear what demands we must meet in order to mollify her. 1. I support Mike. He's doing an excellent job of moderating. 2. I support RB. It seems to me he got blindsided in this discussion. 3. I sincerely pray LeeAnne chooses a new way of dealing with differences of opinion. If there is anything else I should clarify, let me know. Otherwise I'm staying away from this thread.