TSA 'Viper' team makes apperance in Emeryville

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Monica47, Jan 17, 2013.

  1. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member


    EMERYVILLE, Calif. (KGO) -- People are used to seeing TSA inspectors at airports but on Wednesday, a specialized team made their presence known at the Amtrak station in Emeryville. Train stations are difficult to secure because they're so wide open but on Wednesday, the TSA showed up unannounced to let the public, especially potential troublemakers, know that they are keeping an eye on the rails.

    Amtrak passenger Vera Molina said she noticed all the black-clad TSA inspectors right away and it's a presence she appreciates. Asked if she would like to see them more often she said, "I would, can't hurt, just in case you never know." As part of their nationwide "Viper Team" effort, the Transportation Safety Administration put about a dozen agents at the station to see and be seen, although some of the inspectors also work undercover.
    "The visible deterrent is making a presence known at the station, getting on the train, talking to passengers, lettings the bad guys know that we're here, and letting the passengers know that we're here, and working with law enforcement to really tailor our Viper teams to their needs," TSA spokesman Nico Melendez said.

    The idea is to look for signs of trouble in a place that can be difficult to police because of its wipe open environment. That said, the TSA and Amtrak believe that working together they can make rail travel as safe as it can be. "We do have random baggage checks and we do have, at some of the larger stations, we have canine units and we do random sweeps of stations, tracks, infrastructure," Amtrak spokesperson Vernae Graham said.

    Some of those who regularly travel on Amtrak said they think the current level of security s just enough. Passenger Greg Hayes said he wouldn't' want to go through screening. "No, no. I would hope that we don't come to that. I can't see trains being really the source of a security problem, but then maybe I'm not imaginative enough," he said.
    The TSA's Viper teams aren't just used to patrol transportation sites like train stations. They also have been used and will be used at high-profile events in the Bay Area.
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Feeling secure today, goose-stepping and dropping your kids off at Obama Youth meetings tomorrow. :eek:
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  3. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Amtrak passenger (and consummate moron) Vera Molina should go fly, then, and let the TSA grope her until she's severely bruised.
  4. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    It was a PR visit producing very little benefit of real security. Notice there was no mention of frisking and interrogating there. I believe Amtrak still has them on a very short lease.

    If the passengers had been frisked, interrogated, and had their luggage dumped out for inspection, like VIPR has done to non Amtrak venues, do you think the passengers' assessment of this visit would have been as kind? I think not.

    Let them show up with their dogs, make their show, then just go away.
  5. saulblum

    saulblum Original Member

    Of course it was a PR stunt. It was an "unannounced" operation yet the news station just happened to have a camera crew at Emeryville. Riiiiiiight.

    Maybe Pistole had heard about this incident and he wanted to make sure it never happened in California.
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  6. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    Eat (expletive deleted) and die, Nico. Seriously.

    Want them to find the bad guys? They can start right in your little cube.
  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I wonder when TSA will find even one bad guy. Seems to be a witch hunt without bounderies. What kinda of law allows this crap?
  8. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Precicely, RB! What they need to do is narrow their search...to within their own organization!!!
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  9. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Statistically, if they only "interviewed/investigated" ten of their own daily, they'd find one. Or three.
  10. saulblum

    saulblum Original Member

    Over the past 20 years in this country, Amtrak, commuter rail and subway riders have been killed by trucks, barges, texting engineers and drunk motormen. None has been killed by a terrorist bomb.

    The continued fetish with a passenger bringing a bomb onto a train is mind-boggling.
  11. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    The TSA is basing their Amtrak efforts on the notion that some terrorist is going to hijack a train and drive it into the White House.
  12. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I don't see a problem with driving a train into the White House.
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  13. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    I do - namely that it would constitute an act of terrorism and thus give TSA the legitimacy they've lacked and craved for as long as they've existed.

    It's not enough that we win this fight - we have to win it the right way, too. We have to win it above-board and honestly, or else we're no better than the treasonous (expletive deleted)-boils with the fake badges and blue gloves.
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  14. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    I'd like to see a number of political appointees tied to the rails at Union Station. Pissy, Big Sis, Obamalamadingdong...
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  15. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Can we toss in a few congresscriters?
  16. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    They just did a dry run in Stockholm:

    Be very afraid. The bogeyman is coming soon to a train depot near you.​
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  17. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    Oh Gawd Mike where do you come up with this stuff? :eek:
  18. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    TUG's top-secret research directorate is ever vigilant.

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