TSA wants Concealable Multi Threat Body Armor

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fisher1949, Mar 14, 2013.

  1. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    With DHS buying 1.2 billion rounds of ammunition, 2,700 tanks and now body armor, what could possibly go wrong?

  2. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Although I'll be darned if I can find it now, yesterday I opened an e-mail from one of my congresscritters in response to my complaint about all the weapons being purchased by DHS. I was told that the ammunition was needed by DHS law enforcement for use in, my words, the ordinary course. As for the thanks, they just bought those to put new chassises on them and refurbish them. DHS has no plans to use them in our streets.

    <rolls eyes>

    I can't imagine that I would have deleted that message so I'll try again to find it and post it in its entirety.
  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Feeling like a well fed mushroom?
  4. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Found it:

  5. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Here's the link referenced in the e-mail:

    “As we said in a recent post, our office has criminal investigators, or special agents, who are responsible for investigating violations of the laws that govern SSA’s programs. Currently, about 295 special agents and supervisory special agents work in 66 offices across the United States. These investigators have full law enforcement authority, including executing search warrants and making arrests.
    Our investigators are similar to your State or local police officers. They use traditional investigative techniques, and they are armed when on official duty.
    Media reports expressed concerns over the type of ammunition ordered. In fact, this type of ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies. OIG’s special agents use this ammunition during their mandatory quarterly firearms qualifications and other training sessions, to ensure agent and public safety. Additionally, the ammunition our agents use is the same type used at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.
    Our special agents need to be armed and trained appropriately. They not only investigate allegations of Social Security fraud, but they also are called to respond to threats against Social Security offices, employees, and customers.”
    Social Security agents need millions of rounds of ammunition? I find that hard to accept.
    In a reply e-mail to Congressman Lance, I also asked why the TSA needs concealed body armor.
  6. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I think your questions should be:

    How many years does DHS anticipate 1.6 billions rounds of ammo will meet the current needs of the Department?

    Why does DHS need armored vehicles to investigate Social Security fraud or other threats against that agency?

    Why does DHS need full automatic machine guns to carry out the Departments tasks?
  7. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    I asked why so many rounds were needed and also asked if the equipment was coming back from the war zone, why is the military not refurbishing the equipment? If I get a response, then I will point out the same clown from DHS said the vehicles were needed to serve high-risk warrants?

    I'll let you know what response, if any, I get.
  8. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Monica47 and KrazyKat like this.
  9. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Then there's the spelling in their actual solicitation:
    Concealable Multi Treat Body Armor
  10. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    I have this mental image of a TSA employee in bright blue Fatman armor, with cupcakes and other snacks tucked into the Fatbelt.
  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Deflect your bullets and eat it, too?
  12. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    OK, so here's Menendez's response:

    and this was an attachment to Lance's aide's most recent e-mail:

    You pays your money and you takes your chances.
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

  14. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    I'm growing rather allergic to bull :trash:.

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