TSA workers seeking 'secret' security clearance face new background checks

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  1. THawk996

    THawk996 Original Member

    TSA workers seeking 'secret' security clearance face new background checks

  2. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    I think the real fear is very very few will pass background checks and not the cost-effectiveness of conducting these checks. I say bring it on!
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  3. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Now there is a screener who truly gets it.
  4. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Maybe someone in the DHS and/or TSA has decided to cut back on dangerous personalities within the TSA, and this is a discreet way to start weeding them out.

    I do feel sympathy for those worried that financial troubles could cause them to lose their job, because lots of decent people have been unemployed for long periods of time. I hope some mercy and common sense is applied here.

    I think there's a perception that people commit property crimes or become vulnerable to bribery and blackmail attempts because they are experiencing a financial crisis. I'm not sure that's entirely valid.
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  5. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member

    Fire them all.
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  6. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    What this means is they will water down the security clearance requirements to "Secret Clearance Lite™". BTW, I believe some incredible number of people, 854,000, have a top secret security clearance. If this many can hold "top secret" clearance, imagine how many might be cleared for lower levels.
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  7. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    A-whaaaaaa? TSA employment should be grounds for lifetime prohibition from ever holding any kind of security clearance.

    Anyway, is this a sign that SSI is going away to be replaced by actual classified information?
  8. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Dear god I hope there not giving all these idiots Secret Clearences let alone Top Secert. Not only would it delay necessary clearence processing, but I dont think many would pass the clearence process for a whole host of reasons with criminal activity only being the tip of the iceberg

    I just love it when they attempt to use the "thats SSI (or what ever BS line)" to which I tell them to knock off the (expletive deleted) and lies as my clearences far exceed any clearence they have.
  9. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    If thats the case then theres alot of information that TSA wont be able to classify at any level as it wont meet the standards set in place. Then not to menton every other department and agency in the government laugh at TSA and its stupid "classifications"
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  10. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach


    Two thing come to mind.

    1. I think a lot of them won't pass due to credit reasons. This is actually a huge deal, not because I care about TSA screeners, but because I care about a lot of other people who have had job offers evaporate because the background check showed bad credit. A number of states are in the process of passing regulations that would bar this type of background check (exceptions apply).

    2. I wonder if this type of security clearance will be used to try to thwart efforts by us to get information via FOIA - because if the screeners are receiving classified information....
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  11. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    #2 wont thwart any action as theres plenty of "classified" info is introduced in court all the time. Now stonewalling to keep from giving up the info opens a whole can of worms of TSA dolts getting contempt of court, and obstruction of justice charges for them.
  12. rockon

    rockon Original Member

    Next time a TSO tells you something is 'SSI', act surprised and ask what 'SSI' stands for... ;)
  13. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Bingo. This is quite true as the standards for classifying anything is much more stringent than anything labled SSI. Now when they leave their pamphlets lying about it becomes a federal crime, not a slap on the hand.
  14. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    This is what I'm talking about. Ed Hasbrouck has already been fighting with them for at least a year over one FOIA. I think they'd love it if he would just disappear. Thankfully, he's a tenacious sort. :) DHS/TSA don't have any real legs to stand on right now, but I'm wondering if they think that this might give them some.

    But yes, a consequence of them being wrong is contempt.
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  15. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Credit checks are a standard component in Federal background checks, even at fairly low clearance levels. There are numerous cases where an otherwise solid employee has been compromised because of financial stress.

    It often isn't the individual's financial situation that leads to dismissal but failing to fully disclose the information during the investigation. In one recent case an individual who lied regarding his infrequent marijuana use and lost his high level clearance, which ended his twenty plus year career.
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  16. AngryMiller

    AngryMiller Original Member

    Yes, honesty is the only policy when dealing with the DISCO folks. Lie to them and get caught and you will see your clearance yanked so fast it will break the speed of sound.
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