TSORon Arrives

A person in the United States never relinquishes their Constitutional Rights except in limited ways if a prisoner.

TSORon is simply and clearly wrong on this point. More proof that TSA is wrong for America!

 

Well, no, not exactly. Screening at airports falls under the administrative search doctrine. There is wide latitude about what the TSA is allowed to do, but it isn't 'anything goes'. Court cases are mixed - the guy from Seattle won, and I just saw a news article today about disorderly conduct charges being dropped against a woman. EPIC's case is still live, as are a few others.

This is true. Who knows what Congress will eventually do.

Hi, by they way.

 

Ronald you just don't know when to stop digging your own grave. As well as you know there are medications and institutions to help you deal with the delusions your experiencing through a very large dose of keyboard courage.

 

It's not the government's prerogative to decide which rights we exercise and how we choose to exercise them. Options are ours to choose from, not government's. Additionally, in many cases there are no options, or no practical ones other than air travel. Care to explain how I will get to Sydney or Melbourne by any alternative other than air? Berlin? Hamburg? Amsterdam? Paris? Those are all places we've made weekend trips the last few years. Intra-island travel in Hawaii? A business meeting in Denver, NYC or Seattle tomorrow?

The right to travel (esp. international travel) was clearly underscored by the U.S. Supreme Court over 50 years ago in Kent vs. Dulles, and the sorts of destinations referenced in Kent vs. Dulles are only reachable today by air.

Red herring time again -- social security numbers were created by law (no "rights" are involved) and Congress can decide by law how they must be used.

When was martial law declared? Underpinning all of our civil liberties is the right to habeas corpus, which can only be suspended "in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion".

About the only point made is that you're a friggin' retard. Do you at least have a GED, Ron? Just wondering! I've run into some awfully dense, stupid people but you really take the cake.

 

If what you say about suspending rights at checkpoints is true, then it only serves to underscore the importance of abolishing TSA and seeing all 65000 TSOs unemployed, unable to find new employment, and begging on the streets.

Right or wrong, Ron, it matters not to me. My goal remains ever the same - the dismantling of the organization that signs your paychecks and allows you and the other blue-shirted sub-human organisms to live decent lives.

 

And what would you suggest? TSA diseases are appearing on trains, highways, and buses.

 

Oh, I don't do it. Haven't flown in over a year. That doesn't mean I'm not about to come to the defense of the people who do. And because TSA seems to have seen fit to add "Confuse" to "Dominate, Intimidate, Control," it seems to me that the quickest and easiest way to solve the problem is to disband and abolish TSA and take away all the TSOs' paychecks and simply let them starve.

Me not provide information? I'm not the one who posts red-herring links that lead up one blind alley after another.

Far as I'm concerned, people sign away their humanity when they sign up for a job with TSA. Everyone who works for TSA is, categorically, subhuman. To me, this means TSOs are no longer entitled to the sympathy, kindness, compassion or love that is due a real human being.

Given also that you've acted, frankly, like a massive troll since the day you got here, I daresay that if I'm being rude, I'm neither the only nor the worst one to hold that title.

 

They'll just start stealing food as well as cash & electronics.

In all 56 states.

Methinks it might be time to start an Official Consolidated Thread of Off-Topic Posts and Red Herrings by Ron. Then we can move his junk there & save our regular threads for intelligent discussions.

 

Indeed I've come down pretty hard on a couple members who were out of line in their responses to someone -- but that someone was actually staying very clearly within expected boundaries. There isn't going to be much intervention on Ron's behalf, if any.

And let us remember that just as flight attendants are here primarily for our safety (and to fetch our drinks ), so Ron exists here primarily for our pleasure, at our pleasure. When we get bored, he'll go buh-bye.

 

I'm bored, already...tired of hearing about the "consequences" of our actions... *10000!

 

I think I'm missing huge pieces of the puzzle.

 

This is one puzzle you might prefer not to assemble. Once assembled, it goes bump in the night.

 

Ron frankly I believe that you have done more than anyone I can recall on FT to turn opinion against the TSA. I know that I am not the only poster who was influenced by your posts and the fact that your employer permits you to openly post using their name in such a fashion.

Other posters such as rugape have managed to respond and to defend their agency in a very different manner, and are willing to engage in discussion and to even acknowledge the shortcomings of their agency. Many of us appreciate that and do value those posters.

LeeAnne's post is not just reflective of her own feelings; I know several people who have had a similar reaction.

I for one do not have a desire to engage in discussion with you, and you have stated your disdain of me and people from my background in past. If there is no ignore feature here, then I will frankly just spend less time here in order to avoid reading your posts. I haven't been able to access TUG for a few weeks and was disappointed to see this thread, frankly.

 

I'll just let it be.

 

I've noticed that TSORon's replies in other threads are being moved into one massive thread that cannot be replied to. When reading a quoted reply from another person before it was moved, the hyperlink directs only to that thread. What is going on?

 

That's where his tripe belongs.

 

Posts retain their original post numbers no matter what thread or forum they end up in.

 

just wondering. moderate as you wish...

 

I know that some people are offended by Ron and the board software does not seem to support an ignore function, but I guess I missed the part where members have a right to not be offended here. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but you need to put on your big boy pants to debate the state of air travel today. I'll say it again that he serves a purpose of personifying the stupidity and arrogance of his employer, while offering a few nuggets of info here and there that we probably wouldn't find out otherwise.

If TUG wants to be a Amen Choir of TSA criticism with the occasional "Aw, shucks, sorry 'bout that" from the "good" employees, fine. Show him the door and ban his IP address. As it is now, it looks like are talking to ourselves with no way to engage in a debate. It's frustrating to me, and confusing to the casual readers of this board that probably wonder what is going on.

 

I respectfully disagree. In my opinion, Ron's sole intent in participating in this forum is to behave like a classic troll: toss out insults, stir the pot, create bad feelings, hurt people, offend people, generate hatred. I have never seen him provide a shred of useful information. In fact, the vast majority of his posts, when they are not snide or sadistic insults or nasty goading, include incorrect interpretations (e.g. his warped understanding of our Constitution), twisting of facts, or flat-out lies. He does not indicate any interest whatsoever in having a useful dialogue - he seems only interested in expressing utter disdain for passengers, and total disregard for the feelings of others - especially those who have had a bad TSA experience.

If a TSO expressed any interest or intent in actual forum participation, I would welcome that - although the fact that they've taken that job at all renders their input suspect, given the type of person one must be to even choose to do that job. But Ron has expressed no such interest or intent.

I DO feel we have a right to not be exposed to classic troll behavior, and we CAN ask the board owners to remove it. Just like we can expect them to remove spam posts, or links to porn, or any of the other unacceptable things that sometimes crop up on any message board.