TSOs get mass shooting event training

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by KrazyKat, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

  2. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    *ss over tea-kettle no doubt. I'd pay good money to see a couple of the 5 x 5's try to squeeze through the same door at the same time trying to save themselves.
  3. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    So let me get this straight.. the smurfs are scared for there lives IF a shooting were to happen at the CP? Pardon me while I ROFLMAO and choking on my :popcorn:. Seriously the smurfs are the ones causing the choke point with there (expletive deleted) foolery and :trash: voodo . In any case, based on the average BMI of a smurf... they would make the largest target.

    Wouldnt karma be a cruel bitch :cupcake: ! Maybe if they sought gainful employment elsewhere rather selling there soul for a paycheck they wouldnt have a bulleye on them.

    Sorry about your tough luck!
  4. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    So much for them being on the "front line" in the war against tewowism! :rolleyes: Seems like they'd make the perfect "white flag" wavers, though. :D
  5. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Just curious, what type of response would you like to see by unarmed TSOs in a active shooter scenario?
  6. DeafBlonde

    DeafBlonde Original Member

    Leading themselves AND others to safety. Kinda like the teacher in CT did by hiding her students. As I recall, she was also unarmed, but she put her students, you know, the ones who's safety she was responsible for, ahead of herself. But I guess it would be too much to expect any sort of true heroism from TSO's...:(
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  7. Rugape

    Rugape Original Member

    Leading others out has always been a part of any kind of active shooter training I have had** (back to the Army days even), and is kind of a given for most of us. I would like to think that I would have the wherewithal to protect as many people as I could in a situation like that, I have been in shooting situations where I protected children and teens before, but I also had a gun on me, so it was a completely differnt scenario. I tend to think that the training done video I posted the other day from Texas is the best video I have ever seen for a mass shooting incident. Run, Hide, Fight seems to be the best process for all unarmed participants, with the caveat that public servants are to try and help those they can in the process.

    **I have not had the training mentioned in the article, so I have no clue what it tells the people to do.
  8. RB

    RB Founding Member

    It's TSA's claim that TSO's are on the front lines of the war against terror. I guess for TSA employees that means to be the first ones to retreat.
  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    a human wave attack.
  10. RB

    RB Founding Member

    TSA's new motto.

  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach


    The people who work in a facility should be familiar with evacuation and lockdown procedures.

    And since many suckers will instinctively look to people dressed like cops (real & fake) for guidance in emergencies, it makes sense to train them for this role, especially given that at checkpoints they are the largest, most readily identifiable employee group.

    Real cops should be engaging the shooter, while the fake cops help everyone escape.

    A note on this policy -- this policy & training isn't specific to TSA. It was handed down by DHS paper pushers several months ago and applied to just about all DHS personnel including sworn law enforcement personnel, e.g. CBP. It ruffled a lot of feathers because the real law enforcement officers felt their hands potentially would be tied by policy in an emergency where they felt they could and should respond.

    This policy is just another great example of how DHS is broken at all levels.
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  12. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Well, it wouldn't be 'run away fast-as-you-can', trampling travelers like the doors opening at an after Christmas sale.
  13. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Gee whiz, why would "Transportation Security" imply any duty to traveling public safety?? That wasn't on the pizza box...
    You know, I wasn't sure about posting this b/c who knew if the one source was for real, but if this is DHS policy, then shut the whole mess down! We really WOULD be better off with first graders running the show.
  14. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Assuming that you have always been truthful in your posts, it seems that very, very few TSA employees have had anything resembling the training you have - including pretty much everything the TSA claims you're all trained for.
  15. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    The French beat them to it a century ago
  16. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    A good number of them would be best used to stop bullets that would otherwise hurt or kill productive citizens.
  17. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Seems TSA is trying to out do the French.
  18. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Yeah, but TSA has evolved the art form.
  19. Here's a novel suggestion: they should bum rush the shooter. Consider what we've been told about TSA screeners:

    1) Everything they do is for our safety.
    2) They put their lives on the line every day for our safety, because someday there might be a bomb or something.
    2) We will have to change what we think is culturally acceptable and accept what we think is perverse and abusive because the TSA knows the best ways to keep us safe.

    Considering the sorts of platitudes put forth in your propaganda, the least you people could do is be a little heroic. In other active shooter scenarios (Gabrielle Giffords comes to mind), unarmed bystanders have taken it upon themselves to disarm the shooter at their own peril, as well as tend immediately to the wounded, also at their own peril. Saving yourselves first, Rugape, is a truly disgraceful idea, considering how much indignity you demand we accept from you "for our safety."
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  20. RB

    RB Founding Member

    You expect anything more from TSA and its employees?

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