Two Minutes of Terrorist Triumph: Alone With the TSA By ELIE MYSTAL

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Lisa Simeone, Sep 9, 2011.

  1. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    No doubt. You'd be charged with conspiracy to hinder government operations or some other garbage PDQ. Be lucky to get off with 3 years prison.
     
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  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    It's no accident. That was exactly the effect intended when they outfitted the clerks with their cheap blue outfits & upgraded to tin badges.
     
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Not if it was staged as a media event. I doubt they would be successful an escorting anyone, but they'd make their point.

    TSA policy (often ignored) is that you're allowed to have your own witnesses to your molestation!!!!
     
  4. FriendlySkies

    FriendlySkies Member

    +1

    You can even find stuff from TSA indicating that.

    :td:

    http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/tso_uniform.shtm
     
  5. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    High standards they must uphold?

    ROTFLMAO D:
     
  6. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    That's what I was just thinking.
     
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  7. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Wow, I had never thought it about that way, but you're right. Professional watchers.

    Maybe what we should have are the equivalent of election monitors - the ones who watch the voting process to in order to prevent election fraud.
     
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  8. Yeah, you're right. Except it seems to me that we're conditioned to getting the girls manipulated a bit more readily, and that they can take more abuse. They are designed to be ravaged by our offspring, after all (at least that's what my kids have done with them:rolleyes:). Not that it makes any lifting and separating okay!
     
  9. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    AND he's a lawyer. He knows his rights better than most. But this is happening all over the country, lawyer or no lawyer. Cranking up my turntable again (broken record), the Milgram and Zimbardo experiments demonstrated that people are easily cowed by authority.

    See the account of this man at Elliott Blog back in March -- and the disgusting responses of the TSA apologists:
    "I cried through the whole experience"
     
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  10. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    However, it's very telling when someone chooses to ignore threads/posts.
     
  11. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Yeah, who put a gun to his head? These TSA perverts get away with what they do only because guys like this are too scared to say no. Just take another flight or transport mode. I screwed up and booked a flight on an airline that used gates behind a scanner, my fault for not looking for most recent data. Not a prob. $100 later, I'm on a different airline using different gates and no scanner to contend with. If they had subsequently provided me with a random grope opportunity, I would have refused and taken the train or just rented a car.
     
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  12. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I know, but I'm trying to be sympathetic to people who are blindsided, people who are afraid of losing their jobs (especially in this economy) -- some people probably would lose their jobs if their bosses found out they'd missed their flight because they refused to be groped -- or people who are just caught between a rock and a hard place. Imagine if you were traveling to visit a dying loved one, for example, or if you were flying back home after surgery in another city. Maybe you don't have the emotional or physical -- or financial -- wherewithal at that point to resist.

    I'm a fighter by nature, and have always stuck my neck out. I have little to no sympathy for those who have equal privileges and strength to mine, but I do have sympathy for those who don't.
     
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  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Only in your mind. I can barely keep up with all the postings on my own site. Nobody else should be expected to.

    If you want to call someone's attention to a specific thread, send him/her a nice, polite PM ("conversation" in the XenForo vernacular). If he/she then chooses to participate in the thread, fine. If not, that's equally fine and they should not be called out publicly.
     
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  14. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I believe AngryMiller has address this very issue a number of times. Some people are between a rock and a hard place and have no choice but to fly for their jobs ... or else.
     
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  15. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    People don't realize how coercive an environment the checkpoint can be. Let me enumerate the factors:
    1. There's at least a 50% chance that you'll NOT be in your home town. Who wants to get in trouble in a city 1,000 or 3,000 miles away from home?
    2. Travel for business or work must go through. No one can afford to lose a job or a deal in this economy.
    3. People traveling with children are in no position to risk arrest.
    4. One wants to cooperate with authority
    5. The TSA has ditched the Denny's look and attired themselves like cops -- this helps insure compliance.
    6. No one expects the things that have been reported.
     
  16. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    "HAVE FUN!"

     
  17. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Yes, Elizabeth. I remember this vividly. I called out that remark in one of my comments at the time. Especially for those idiot TSA apologists who were telling the guy to "man up" and other such horsesh*t.

    You can't make this stuff up.
     
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  18. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Goes right up there with "Got a cutie coming through", which as I recall was said of a pilot's 17 y/o daughter as she approached the junkatron.
     
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  19. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    "Have fun!" makes it crystal clear that the victim endured a deliberate sexual assault that involved the collusion of at least 3 TSA employees. Since no investigation has been made and no charges have been filed, we must conclude the assault was sanctioned all the way up to the President of the United States.
     
  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Yep, that one's in the Master List, too!
     

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