"Um, Shouldn't You Have Asked Me These Questions Before I Got on the Plane?"

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Fredd, Sep 2, 2011.

  1. Fredd

    Fredd Original Member

    Um, you shouldn't have been asked them at all.

    I ran across this journalist's account of his experience being "checked out" after getting off a domestic flight on one of my favorite travel blogs.

    It starts like this...

  2. VH-RMD

    VH-RMD Original Member

    land of the free?
  3. Fredd

    Fredd Original Member

    There's still hope. The comments are overwhelmingly negative about the questioning and demand for I.D. Quite a few commenters criticize the reporter for putting up with it at all.
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  4. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Great piece of writing! One commentor suggests they were checking for terrorist "dry runs". Interception post-flight by the same folks who don't know who's doing what to the baggage? They were Customs agents, though. One person suggests, if this is the case, cutting out the TSA entirely and let Customs take over. But working over passengers on a domestic flight?
  5. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    A customs official on internal flight? His ability to detain or question you doesn't exceed that of any other LEO. You don't have to tell him squat. This is looking like a probing operation, to see what the reaction of people is and whether they can get away with it.
  6. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    I would've just kept walking without responding. Would they try to physically detain me?
  7. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Holy crap!

    ETA this from the comments:

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  8. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    That is my favorite comment, and pretty much sums up the "qualities" of the TSA!
  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    It happens. About 8 years ago we had an engineer her for two weeks of training, one week with us and one week taking a course (taught world-wide) at a industry standards group in Austin. After he landed in Austin, he found himself on his way back to Pune, ended up taking the course later in Switzerland.
  10. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    U.S. Customs greeting LAX-->DFW.
  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I'm becoming convinced we need to keep cameras going anytime we're not at home or work.
  12. gojirasan

    gojirasan Original Member

    Robert Wilonsky, huh? A journalist? He is a superb writer. A natural. One of those people who are just born able to write well. He's so good in fact that his prose is almost a distraction to the point of the article. Power corrupts. The idea that people in power won't abuse it is absurd. The same kind of people who seek such jobs are precisely the kind who will abuse their power at every opportunity. They love it. That interaction was probably better than sex for that customs guy. (expletive deleted), he probably role plays such things during sex. Probably no 0ne has better job satisfaction than a schoolyard bully who grows up to be an LEO.
  13. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    1. People searched getting off a train in Savannah.
    2. People searched boarding a bus in Miami.
    3. People stopped and questioned getting off a domestic flight in Dallas.
    4. Congress does nothing and media is silent.
    5. ?
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  14. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

  15. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Or failed ex-military. At some point they decide that protecting American values and the Constitution isn't nearly as fulfilling as strip-searching the elderly, knowing full well that their actions are in complete support of the terrorists they're supposedly trying to stop.
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  16. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Actually, what I find more disturbing is that they actually seem to think that doing those things is in support of the Constitution.

    Where do people get these ideas?
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  17. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    From their TSA indoctrination. Anyone questioning the word of a blue-shirted jack-booted knuckle-dragging thug must be given a punitive grope-down in the name of freedom.
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  18. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    The fact that millions of Americans support this agency is just as telling.
  19. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    All that proves is that Hermann Goering and P.T. Barnum were both right.
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  20. darwin76

    darwin76 Original Member

    The reactions might be negative but in most peoples' lives it ranks of lower concern than what's happening on Jersey Shore or what new flavors of dental floss are in stock at Wal-mart.

    Only the hardcore civil libertarians mounted any resistance to the Supreme Court case which held that police may stop anybody for any reason and demand identification, so long as the state's statute wasn't too vague about what constituted identification.

    We're living in a papers, please world. The sheep love being identified.

    We're on our way to a panoptic society based on government identity and databased access to mountains of personal information about even trivial details of our personal lives. What do the people do - they update their Facebook to ensure those details are correct.
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