Underwear Bomber Victim Impact Statement

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I've reproduced that part of the post that appears to be the actual victim impact statement presented in court, that since portion would be a public record not subject to copyright.

    The full post is here: Victim Impact Statement by Kurt Haskell

    Basically, he (passenger, practicing attorney) is suggesting that the underwear bomber was a false flag operation possibly using defective explosives provided by the F.B.I.

    If this is correct, the Nude-O-Scope rollout is even more of a sham than we have thought.
     
  2. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    I have always believed that this was a "false flag" attack, staged in order to get scanners into airports and to enrich Skeletor's pocketbook.
     
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  3. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    That is absolutely incredible. It would amount to a terrorism version of the Fast & Furious scandal.

    The government better pray that a court never allows me discovery.

    --Jon
     
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  4. Kurt Haskell has been talking about this since right after the incident. It was mostly only Alex Jones who was listening, though.
     
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  5. Affection

    Affection Original Member

    It just sounds so absurd on first listen. But then again, so does Fast & Furious.

    --Jon
     
  6. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    Haskell is "greatly disappointed" as we all are when we fathom the treachery involved.
    Some well-informed viewers reamed a homeland security expert on CSPAN over some of these facts.
    I want to thank Haskell for not getting killed or going insane since his initial truth reporting to the FBI.>3
     
  7. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Even the risk-averse NPR interviewed him shortly after the attempt happened, on All Things Considered.

    Frankly, I feel sorry for Abdulmutallab. He is a mentally ill young man. And he never had a chance in (expletive deleted) of detonating a bomb.
     
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  8. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    This is the most damning indictment of the U.S. Federal Government I've ever read. It describes crimes committed against us by a crime syndicate that views U.S. citizens as objects to be exploited.

    I read it when it first came out on Infowars, and I realized we could no longer deny this man's account. What had previously been labeled "conspiracy theory nonsense" had just entered into the public record uncontested.

    I hate it when conspiracy theorists are right.
     
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  9. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    There's a pattern here -- so many of their "terrorists" are turning out to be just patsies who might just have remained nondescript idiots if the FBI hadn't help them along and entrapped them.
     
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  10. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Exactly. Everyone so far has been either a disaffected sad sack, or mentally ill, as Abdulmutallab is. And now he's going to get shipped off to the supermax in Florence, Co., which is a horrifying place. It's straight out of a dystopian novel.

    This is what we do to the mentally ill in this country. Stuff them into prisons. And now, with the bogus War on Terror™, we also entrap them.
     
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  11. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    And where is the mainstream media in all this? Surely even Drudge would want to pick this up...
     
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  12. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    The country starts to wrap its collective mind around how we've been lied to on this false flag operation? Ask other questions? The MSM can't go near there. Hard stop.
    I don't believe in monolithic institutions. But you start to wonder...
     
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Perhaps the authors of the articles on TSA News should offer free republishing rights to mainstream outlets. TSA News is already set up with an RSS feed. An editor would just need to watch the feed or the blog itself for articles of interest.

    With a bit of luck the articles might displace some of the drivel that spews out of TSA's propaganda machine and ends up in print.
     
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  14. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    In the past two days, TSA News has been contacted by two reporters, one mainstream and one not-mainstream. I can't believe that, in digging, they and others haven't also discovered TUG. But you know what they'll say -- we're too "partisan," we're not "objective," we have a -- gasp! -- point of view. In other words, we call a spade a spade. Can't have that! Have to pretend that lies aren't lies, that abuse isn't abuse, that disinformation is just "another opinion."
     
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  15. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    This story certainly bears repeating. Testimony as facts, no opinion needed.
     
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  16. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Interesting that the timing on this coincides with the report of the exaggerated bomb claims TSA made in the MCO incident in 2008 and no one in media is making te connection.

    Might be good fodder for a news story. ;)
     
  17. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I wouldn't expect them to print TUG, although WSJ did link to it once, and that WSJ article was linked from Drudge. Got a nice boost in ad revenues for 48 hours! :)

    With regard to getting them to run TSA News items as articles and op-ed pieces, there are thousands of media outlets in the country, and trust me -- you are already reaching them. You shouldn't be worrying too much about the partisanship/objectivity aspect. Since TSA News has gotten well underway, there's been a significant drop in TUG's search engine referrals. TSA News is the only place I see where they might be going. You HAVE their attention, you just need to make the most use of it. I would suggest creating a "Complimentary Reprint Policy" page and link to it with an inconspicuous link at the end of each article: This article may be reprinted. Please see our Complimentary Reprint Policy for details.

    The reprint policy would stipulate some bare minimum requirements: Must reference TSA News and contain it's URL, include name of original author, whatever. KISS.

    Just my 2 cents, but I think you can get a lot more mileage out of TSA News if you push this.
     
  18. Fisher1949

    Fisher1949 Original Member Coach

    Since TSA News being a news blog and TUG a forum maybe that effects how high these hit in searches. Perhaps those of us who comment need to mix up the links we're embedding so that TUG gets wider distribution.

    I've been using the master lists links but there are other areas here that might have wider appeal, such as the Tell Your Story or Resources for complaints. Maybe a Practical Advice sticky would draw general traffic.

    There is enough information and knowledge within the group to provide suggestions to novice travelers on how to cope with TSA and air travel in general. I'm always amazed at how naive most people are about air travel and security.

    For example, my brother-in-law, a once a year passenger, is traveling in a week or two and alluded to putting his wallet, watch and jewelery in the plastic dish before going through the checkpoint. I told him to bury valuables down inside a carry on bag to make theft less likely. I could see the light go off in his head when he realized how stupid it was to put this in a dish and make it easy pickings for a thief.
     
  19. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    But for the average person, I think TSA News might actually be a better Google hit if there's an article on his/her subject. A lot of people aren't "forum people". They find the navigation confusing.

    Generous links to both would be nice :) but I will not begrudge TSA News its traffic. In fact, there's a link to it in our Blog Roll.
     
  20. FaustsAccountant

    FaustsAccountant Original Member

    I wish some of the people around me would get smack by that light.
    When I advise a fellow coworker, also a once a year flyer, to do the same; she merely responded with "Oh the TSA people are there to watch my stuff and will keep any thieves from taking my wallet."

    Normally I don't wish ill will on anyone, but sometimes it should just happen once for enlightenment to occur.
     
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