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Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Doober, Sep 11, 2011.

  1. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Most people live their lives in "Sh# Happens" mode. Instead of living deliberately, they live on auto-pilot. They take what comes, and feel responsible for nothing that happens to them and little of what they do themselves.

    This shuffling serf mentality is sad in an ordinary citizen, but it's not a sin that should be punished with MRSA, scabies, ringworm or whatever the latest nasty may be. A government agency should not operate in "Sh# Happens" mode. Such entities are charged with being better organized and smarter than that. The shuffling serfs are entitled to a TSA that changes its gloves between every grope. It is, after all, their tax dollars being squandered.

    Give the shuffling serfs a case of MRSA, and they will wake up. When they do it will be pitch-forks and torches. They are nasty when forced out of the mostly happy daze "Sh# Happens" mode affords them.
     
  2. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Considering the billions TSA pissed away on unproven, junk; the cost of gloves is a drop in the bucket, and if used properly do more good then any of the other Voodoo BS. Then again TSA doesnt seem to give a rat tookus about the liability of infections passed along to travelers due to poor hygiene, sanitation and PPE practices. Maybe a few suits being filed for infections acquired from interactions with TSA would change there minds. Just for reference MRSA can cost 100K+ to treat a inital infection (if it doesnt kill you) and flare up cost thousands of dollars a year for new episodes as you fully get rid of MRSA.

    Considering we buy gloves by the skid a month at work and those costs go down to the .01 to .02 a pair. Then at least considering how much you all are over paid you could buy your own gloves as there dirt cheap or is skipping one starbucks a week gonna cramp your style.
     
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  3. Bart

    Bart Original Member

    Amusing comments. Interesting how quickly my words get twisted in order to fit certain people's agendas. For the record:

    1. I never said TSOs should not wear gloves.
    2. I never said TSOs should not put on a fresh pair of gloves.
    3. I never said TSA should not spend money on gloves.
    4. I never said TSOs should refuse a passenger's request to put on a fresh pair of gloves.

    All I said is that there is a limit when the germophobia crosses the line into the ridiculous. If TSOs were to change gloves after every screening, the cost to the passenger and taxpayer would be outrageous. I think the frequency TSOs presently change gloves is reasonable; and you the passenger ALWAYS have the right to ask a TSO to put on a fresh pair of gloves. And here's a news flash: the majority of passengers (way up in the high 90% range) truly don't give a damn; they don't fuss; they don't bitch; they don't moan or otherwise complain that a TSO has not changed gloves. In fact, I've seen TSOs make the first move to put on a fresh pair of gloves than I have a passenger request that they do so.

    Your mileage may vary.
     
  4. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Two or three cents per passenger groped is "outrageous," but groping senior citizens, forcibly removing diapers, irradiating people with uncertified equipment and stealing their belongings while calling it "voluntary surrender" is all acceptable?
     
  5. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    Won't it be wonderful when TSA gets police authority and they run actual jails?
     
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  6. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    It's important to know the mindset of a thug. They really do not have any compunctions whatsoever, and there is no abuse of others that they cannot "justify".

    I never advocate violence nor hatred, but knowledge is good. To know the mind of a thug is to be able to predict what a thug will do and say. It can be useful to be able to anticipate a thug's next move.

    http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
     
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  7. RB

    RB Founding Member

    I wonder on which day of TSA training they cover thievery, drug dealing, and how to maximize profits with your fence?
     
  8. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member

    Wow...Just got a whole lot more insight on the enemy.
     
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  9. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    Back to sanitary practices, bart would be correct for incidental contact, like handling id or shaking hands. But different protocols apply if you have been handling garbage or body searching people. That is simply common sense.
     
  10. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    ...which negates the possibility of it ever being a TSA procedure.
     
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  11. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    oooooooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

    I have moved a post that was a pretty direct personal attack.

    This thread is contentious. It started that way. In spite of such, it has mostly remained heated, but respectful. Minus a very small portion of posts that have been moved, which continue to be open for reading and debate, as well as a couple previously, let's keep this discussion focused on the reality and not on each other.

    Please and thank you.
     
  12. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Those agencies have no jurisdiction over what the TSA does at checkpoints.

    We now spending well over ten time what we did on security in 2000, and now you're concerned about the cost of gloves? :confused:
     
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  13. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Diversionary tactic.

    Don't argue the points. Move the goal.
     
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  14. Pesky Monkey

    Pesky Monkey Original Member

    No offense but I'm turning blue from reading all the run on sentences.
     
  15. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Well breathing a little more often might reduce the cyanosis, hypercarbia and hypoxic insult. Sorry not everyone is not the grammar police/nazi.

    Just a FYI to reduce the bandwith from replies(something that drives me up a wall) and gets to the heart of the matter you have.
     

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