UPDATE: No Felony Charges -

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by FetePerfection, Jul 19, 2011.

  1. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

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  2. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    "The TSA issued a written statement Tuesday saying that it won't tolerate assaults on its employees."

    So what are they going to do, shoot people?
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  3. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Doober, give them time.
  4. FetePerfection

    FetePerfection Founding Member Coach

    At least someone recognized the fact that TSA doesn't qualify as law enforcement...perhaps that same someone should tell that to TSA!
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  5. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    There is speculation that TSA will fine her up to $11,000. Hopefully, a fund will be established to cover payment of that fine - or she and her attorney will fight it.
  6. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I don't believe the TSA has the right to fine her that much -- they said the same thing to John Tyner and it turned out to be (expletive deleted).
  7. mikemey

    mikemey Original Member

    When they stop assaulting us, we'll stop assaulting them.
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  8. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    TSA will manufacture a way to fine her as much as they possibly can. They'll cobble together a whole bunch of transgressions to add up to one whopping sum.

    Someone needs to start a non-profit organization raise funds to pay fines for good people like Yukari.
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  9. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    No, oh he!! no. Do not pay the fines. IANAL, but I would not even set a precedent with paying the TSA's fines. Challenge the fines in court if possible.
  10. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    With regard to SAN (John Tyner's home airport) it appears that perhaps TSA has enlisted the locals to do their dirty work for them by issuing citations, e.g. "Today I was cited for 7.01(b), failure to complete pre boarding screening. And 602(v)(1)pc - Avoid Screening Process":

    Received two misdemeanor citations at San Diego Harbor airport today.
  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I swear to god, there's going to be a reckoning.
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  12. 4nsicdoc

    4nsicdoc Original Member

    IAAL, or was till retirement. TSA's fine enforcement is as impotent as their TSOs. All they can do is say "You're fined." They can't collect on their own. They have to take it to an Administrative Law Judge led hearing to get it reduced to an order. And even then you can tell them to stick it up their "resistance." To collect, they have to beg the local U.S. Attorney to file a civil suit to establish their right to collect. US Attorneys are very political creatures who almost always aspire to elected office (Example - Mr. 911 himself - Rudy Guliani was a US Attorney.) We are seeing prosecutors of every kind sensing that the TSA is detested and that there might be a political advantage to being seen as anti-TSA. Like, for example, the Arizona prosector who has bailed out on the boob twister. He refused to prosecute and sent it to the city DA to see if he wanted anything to do with it. And the rumors in Nashville are that the local prosecutor's office is going to "defer" prosecution of Ms. Abbott. We'll know a week from Monday.
  13. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Thank you so much, 4nsicdoc, for your insight.
  14. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

    Yes, thank you very much 4nsicdoc. It is always nice to get an attorneys input on matters such as this, the more we know/understand about the processes and requirements, the better armed we are to handle the issue.
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