VIPR set to harass Philadelpha transit passengers on Thursday

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Jul 19, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach Practice operation set at PATCO stations

    "dogs, federal air marshals and TSA screeners" -- sounds like a nightmare commute to work. :td:

    This should not be happening in America. :td:

    We need to do our part by communicating through the Philadelphia media -- not only by commenting on articles such as the above but by direct contact with editors and reporters. This preview of totalitarianism in operation should be shut down before it ever gets started.

    Unfortunately, I have to spend 10+ hours today driving back from St. Louis to Minneapolis. I will do as much as I can to research & post link & contact information here.


    Possible talking points:

    John W. Whitehead's essay on VIPR (VIPR Searches and the American Citizen: 'Dominate. Intimidate. Control.') is informative reading.

    Long version:
    Short version:

    The short version will fit on an 8.5" x 11" page if you work with the font size & margins. This would be an excellent flyer if anyone is in a position to distribute literature on site.


    VIPR's recent noteworthy :rolleyes: successes:

    1. Savannah, GA: Searched passengers & luggage on an arriving train. As a result, they were banned by Amtrak police from conducting any further operations at Amtrak facilities.

    2. Des Moines, IA: Harassed Hispanics at the local bus terminal
    3. San Diego, CA: Deported children (including a 16-year-old girl on her way to school) to Tijuana from a trolley stop
    No decent people should allow these thugs to operate in their communities. :td:
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  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach


    Philadelphia Inquirer emails (from list used for recent PR, some could be bounces):

    Television stations serving the Philadelphia market:
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  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Philadelphia Mayor:

    The Honorable Michael A. Nutter​
    City Hall​
    Room 215​
    Philadelphia, PA 19107​
    215.686.2181 (Phone)​
    215.686.2180 (Fax)​

    Philadelphia City Council:
    Port Authority Transit Commission (PATCO):
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  5. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Thinking out loud a bit - we should come up with some kind of psychological counter-warfare for the VIPR acronym, be it a mnemonic, a redefinition ("Terrorists Searching Americans"), or just plain exposing the intended psychological impact to disable its subconscious influence.
  6. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    This is really getting out of hand.

    Part of me hopes they step up these actions because then the whole "Don't like it, don't fly" crowd will start to get a taste of it, though it will be slow to start.

    The other part of me knows that once it starts, it will only continue to get worse.

    So, about the contact info above, since you're driving, and I'm sitting around for the next 6 hours, would you like for me to hammer out an editorial we could send prepackaged to these folks? I imagine they'll be more receptive if we can hand them something ready to go...
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    A prepackaged editorial would be useful, but if you look at the links there are really only two newpapers (five "papers" but two companies).

    I think everyone should get worked up over this (here & in that "other" place) and make as much noise as possible:
    • Alert Drudge, Rush, WND, etc. (I've sent a couple emails already but others can join in)
    • Submit editorials
    • Locate articles & comment
    • Find journalists emails & communicate (attach copies of the Whitehead essay where appropriate)
    The emphasis should be on making VIPR feel very much unwanted , as they should be -- who the heck needs/wants to encounter TSA goons with dogs & blue gloves on the way to work?
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  8. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Sure. Here's what I wrote on the website if you want to use it as a jumping-off point:

    One of the problems I'm noticing myself having is that there are so many articles on so many sites and so many contacts that they all start to run together in my head. It doesn't help that every one of these damn news sites wants you to register before you comment. I understand why, being in IT myself and having enough spam problems but it makes it very difficult to get the message out there efficiently. It's hard to be caught between having my head swimming with confusing media information on one side, and trying to be methodical in sorting it out and winding up only being able to get through to a small handful due to the time it takes on the other.

    I'll do everything I can to help - I've been told many times that I have a way with words and so if you need me to draft another press release or whatever, or proofread/embellish an existing one, just let me know. Tell me what key points you want highlighted and I'll do my best to nail them and make it easy reading at the same time.
  9. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    The creepy acronymn "viper" plus "Dominate, Intimidate, Control" are all a citizen needs to know about viper.

    Viper should never have been created. It must be disbanded.
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  10. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    I guess what I'm wondering is (and pardon me if this sounds mind-bogglingly cynical but I've known some DUMB "Rah-rah, A-mer-ee-kah" types) if the public thinks "VIPR" is creepy, as in "Ugh, look what those creepy snakes in government are doing now!" or if they think it's cool as in "Yeah, the VIPER is gonna BITE them ter'wrists!"

    If the second mentality is still prevalent as it was in the immediately post-9/11 Bush years, I'm wondering how we can inoculate against it.
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  11. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I have to hit the road -- 9+ hour drive plus rest stops, naps, etc. I'll be back on-line & rejoin the effort around midnight.
  12. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Be safe, Mike.

    CelticWhisper, I'm of the opinion that there's a roughly 50/50 split. However, as more people speak out against this stuff, people who weren't otherwise become emboldened to speak their mind. It is believed that you get "put on a list" for speaking out against TSA. Maybe. Maybe not. I've stopped caring. I've become A LOT more vocal than I used to, and so far I'm unscathed. As a counterpoint, I had a colleague at the airline where I used to work whose name matched one on the NFL. In spite of the fact that we worked with and amongst the corporate security group who managed our portion of that list she couldn't get around it. My point here is that if you end up on a list, so what? People end up on the list all the time who shouldn't. Nevermind that the list is so easy to circumvent, even a TSA clerk could do it.

    And back OT, so people need to see that other people are fed up. The more we speak out about this, the more comfortable they will be to do so, as well.
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  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Can someone cross-post this on KOS? They have complained about TSA/VIPR where minority issues are concerned. Maybe they would help take this up.

    Ditto for Indy Media, esp if they have a Philly subsite.
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  14. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response - VIPR

    Quite an apt acronym, I suppose. It's "visible" as in Security Theatre, "intermodal" as in mission creep beyond commercial aviation. I've wondered if this commercial from the early 90s was in the back of the TSA wonk's head when they came up with it:

    When the public sees more TSA harassment outside of commercial aviation, I'm sure that the name will change to something benign. How about CARE - Community Action Response and Engagement, because who could be against a government agency that CAREs? The TSA employees could even hand out CARE Bears to the school kids (at least the ones that don't get deported like in San Diego). :rolleyes:
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  15. FriendlySkies

    FriendlySkies Member

    I really have to ask what is next.. Will screening stations be setup along the highway? Will TSA setup at the grocery store, beach, sports arena, etc... ? :eek: Land of the Free :td:
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  16. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    Freedom isn't free. :rolleyes:
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  17. JoeBas

    JoeBas Original Member

    Someone needs to stand outside the station, holding a sign, "Warning! Deadly VIPRs inside!".

    And just talk with whoever wants to.

    They were even helpful enough to tell us their schedule. ;)

    I'd do this myself if I was still in town, I came back down south on Amtrak 19 last week though.
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  18. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Daniel Rubin of the Philadelphia Inquirer has been a staunch civil liberties advocate and vocal opponent of the TSA and VIPR. I corresponded with him some time back. I'm sure if he knows about this he'll be on it.

    Re discussion above about people finally waking up, an activist friend of mine likes to say, "Courage is contagious."

    (Of course so is cowardice, the cynic in me always thinks, but all the more reason for us to keep speaking out.)
  19. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

    He sure is; I knew that name was familiar. ^
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  20. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

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