Voodoo BDOs Slow Security Line to a Crawl, 4-Hour Delays

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Lisa Simeone, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Assembling that many "domestic terrorists" onto a plane probably would be viewed as some sort of criminal conspiracy.
  2. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    If I think back to the last ten years, there were significant airport delays around the world after 9/11, and after the liquid incident.

    While passengers were frustrated, in both instances I believe that most people knew that the delays would be temporary and eventually abate as new procedures were put into place. But this IS the new procedure, apparently, and what concerns me is that there doesn't seem to be any indication that there will be an effort to improve the already long wait times.
  3. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Not me! I haven't done that flight in a long time. I'll do the drive - it's only about 5 1/2 hours. And since I like to go to Bar Sinister when I'm in LA, driving lets me take all manner of gothy wardrobe options - including the big stompy boots I got in London years ago. TSA hates those boots. Every time I wear them the TSA makes some comment about how weird they are, or that the metal inside of them is 'different' than boots bought in the US. One time I thought they were going to confiscate them....fortunately they didn't.
  4. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    I think I think that too. There have been ample opportunities for them to hit an airport with a thousand people all queued up and ready to go - and nothing has happened.
  5. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    Ok, that is just odd. I was bemoaning on another thread the fact that my US purchased Aerosoles are setting off the WTMD in various places, which is the first time in years that has happened to me.

    UK airports do have signage that boots may be requested to be removed. I'm getting rid of those shoes, even if they were only $29 on sale, because they are just one more thing on the list of many which results in extra checking by TSA. (Normally I would not alter my wardrobe for TSA, but they are generally crappy shoes anyways and this just one reason why they annoy me.)
  6. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    Our tax dollars at work. :confused:

    The last depression:
    This time around:

    [Coached by Mike to remove copyrighted image that has already been the subjecto of numerous lawsuits. Please refer to forum policies -- you may only post pictures that are your own. This photo removed contained part of a Denver Post image.]

    Thanks. I apologize.
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  7. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    could you expand on this?
  8. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    I had already taken them off and put them on the belt, so it wasn't that they set off the metal detector. I think those guys ran them through the machine about three times. It was almost comical.

    Life is too short for crappy shoes. ;)
  9. exbayern

    exbayern Original Member

    Oh yes, it was a good excuse to go shoe shopping ;) I found 5 pairs to replace the 1 crappy pair!
  10. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    are you talking about the platform knee high boots?

    Oh trust me if you think your boots are bad you should have seen the attention my vibram fives get when they first came out, you would have thought the circus was in town and that they had some secret compartment hiding there next "big catch", and when there swabs came up blank i started laughing my (expletive deleted) off because they had the look like I'd shot there puppy or had been rejected by the opposite/same sex .

    Then again i still wish i had my flesh colored ones they blended so well that the idiots in blue didnt' realize i never took my shoes off more then a few times as there a pain in the (expletive deleted) to get on or off as there designed to fit tight, so now i wear keens most of the time.

    Elisabeth can you pm me a link to that denver post image you posted and that has been removed as the Denver post is one of those publications that files copyright cases like most of us breath. I swear its how they stay in business is from the lawsuits alone and not there circulation.
  11. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I know that Denver picture very well. It's all over the web. And I know about the copyright hoo-hah. But it speaks a thousand words. As do, if I may toot my own horn, these:
  12. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    For TravelnMedic, the Denver photo that's all over the web but that's not supposed to be:
    (And you can always just Google "tsa" in "Images" and lots of instances of this picture will come up)

    Edited to Add: Ooh, I take that back. Clearly the copyright guardians have cleaned it up. You used to be able to find it all over the web; it was the picture that popped up most often. Not anymore.
  13. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    yeah that was the one i thought it was. makes you wonder why the Denver Post is being so aggressive on this image compare to others.... that or are they in bed with TSA or where threatened by TSA for publishing that photo. Also makes you wonder what happened to that guy, and if his fifteen didnt cause him do to Robert O'Donnell (except Robert was a hero that one is just the opposite)
  14. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    It wasn't the Denver Post. It was an outfit called "Righthaven" that sort of acquired (but really didn't acquire) the rights to Denver Post material and developed a good scam for performing legal shakedowns. Eventually the courts whacked them rather soundly, but we're not 100% sure that they're down for the count.
  15. TravelnMedic

    TravelnMedic Original Member

    Mike you are correct it is Righthaven that was doing that at the "behest" of the Denver Post, that detail slipped my mind. Im glad that troll is on the ropes (supposed to be filing for bankruptcy soon) and potentially the lawfirm he works for as hes been pulling this stunt for years even before righthaven came to being. I know more then a few well known photographers, trusts, groups, and agency's that told gibson to take a hike. To bad that they won 70 cases before getting smacked on 100's more.

    I dont need righthaven or clones to deal with the copyright cases on my behalf I have dealt with and dealing with; i have my own lawyer that does the legal voodoo when people steal my art and images.
  16. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Great story! It's a lot like the circus coming to town.

    And yeah, my boots are platforms, probably about 5 inches, with lots of straps. They don't go all the way to my knees, maybe only a third of the way.
  17. Sunny Goth

    Sunny Goth Original Member Coach

    Every time I see a Righthaven story somewhere I laugh. I can't wait for them to file for bankruptcy. Can.not.wait. It's people like them that give lawyers a bad name. I'd love to see them brought up on ethics charges too.
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  18. jtodd

    jtodd Original Member

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  19. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    If Rightshaven was the best the newspapers could do to stay alive, well ...
  20. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    I think I know what you're asking, if not, I'll explain something else. :D

    I've posted my pedigree elsewhere, so I'm assuming regular readers here know it. If someone needs me to fill in the details, I'm more than happy to do so. For now, and for brevity, I'll save everyone the bandwith.

    That said, I no longer have access to hard data, so everything I'm saying here is a guess, albeit a very educated guess. However, as I'm sure anyone else has in a job they had to live and breathe, I've grown to have a "sixth sense" understanding of airline booking trends.

    What the tea leaves tell me is that bookings for this fall period are down. Waaaaaaaaaaaaay down.

    I know of at least 2 airlines (and there are probably others) that are laying off a number of people, and incidentally, trying to do so very quietly. One of these airlines has covenants with their unions not to drop their "size" below a certain point, and they were already at, or very near, that point. For them to cut, they've either eliminated their minimum covenants wiggle room, or they're under extraordinary circumstances allowing them to go below that minimum. The other airline has a personality of wanting to be perceived as the biggest and the best. They have somewhat of a reputation in airline management circles as what we call a "gate whore". What this means is that they will hold on to real estate they don't need, paying the leases and upkeep, even keeping visible staff (gate/ticket agents) around to be perceived as busier than they are. That these 2 airlines, in particular, are shedding staff is significant.

    While these 4-hour delays at BOS due to TSA nonsense are a symptom of a serious disease (TSA stupidity), they will likely go away in the next couple of weeks. Not due to TSA's revamp of the program, or handling of the situation. It'll be because fewer people are flying.
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