Wells Fargo Bank Loots California Couple's Home

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  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    CBS Local Los Angeles: Owners Lose Possessions After Home Near Twentynine Palms Is Mistakenly Foreclosed

    The owners of a modest home near Twentynine Palms lost their cherished possessions after a bank mistakenly foreclosed their residence.

    A crew broke into Alvin and Pat Tjosaas’ desert home and took everything after being directed by Wells Fargo to secure the structure.

    The couple, however, didn’t have a mortgage on the home.

    Alvin said the deputy sheriff said, “Good news, we know who took (your possessions)…Wells Fargo. Bad news, your stuff is all gone.”
  2. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I'll bet. They can't settle this fast enough. This is theft. If you or I did this, we'd be in jail. (If a person takes what isn't his'n, he better return it or go to prison.)

    The family needs good lawyer and they need to make the bank hurt badly enough so the bank will not do this again to someone else. Ever.

    This reminds me of a similar case in Florida in which the victims "foreclosed" on the local Bank of America branch to get the bank to pay the judgement they owed.
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  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Montetary penalties are one thing but I think some people need to be prosecuted and pay personal penalties. Until it is made personal nothing will change.
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  4. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Just like the TSA. Until the blue-shirted thugs are held personally accountable for their actions, they'll just keep on doing stupid and inane things.
  5. Monica47

    Monica47 Original Member

    I lived in 29 Palms for a few years - owned a house there for 26 years. I can see how this could happen. Our house was in a "neighborhood" but many houses are scattered throughout the desert standing alone with the cactus and Yucca trees and Wells Fargo certainly didn't do due diligence in making sure they had identified the correct property before foreclosing on these people.
  6. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    "Foreclosure" is something that is done when a mortgage exists and is in default.

    What was done to these people was breaking, entering, burglary, vandalism, and looting. Every person involved in it, from the guys carrying stuff out of the house to the moron who signed the paperwork needs to do maximum prison time for each of the felonies presented.

    As previously mentioned, the lack of accountability is what makes this sort of thing possible.
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  7. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    This is why damages would be in excess, perhaps greatly in excess of what was actually stolen. The emotional damages, the damages of civil liberty infringement (being able to enjoy your own house without said breaking and entering, and so on. These people need to get a good lawyer and bleed the bank. Forget about some nameless low level clerk going to prison.
  8. Caradoc

    Caradoc Original Member

    Nothing changes if "the bank" is the only entity paying penalties.

    The individuals involved all need to be held accountable.
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  9. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    The folks who ran the French Revolution had some excellent ideas in that regard.

    I suspect the next iteration of Occupy will include not-so-symbolic guillotines.
  10. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    In other Well Fargo bad press, they fired an employee because she was convicted for shoplifting. 40 years ago.

    Oh, well. She could always work for TSA...
  11. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    that is a thought. sue the individuals involved as well.
  12. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    More details in ABC's version of the story today:

    ABC News: Wells Fargo Mistakenly Cleans Out Retired Couple's Home Twice

    She later learned the contractors had used a satellite photo and an address given to them by Wells Fargo.
    "They simply were at the wrong location," she said, "not even on our road.
    The Tjosaases contacted an attorney and Wells Fargo, but Pat Tjosaas said her attorney "was having trouble getting a contact to return his calls" at the company.
    The couple did their best to clean up the mess and asked Wells Fargo to have another subcontractor replace the locks on their home.
    However, over Labor Day weekend, Alvin Tjosaas, went to check on the home and saw that it had been broken into and "vandalized" again.
    "They had taken things like propane tanks, tires, rims that belonged to vintage cars, and put them on the lawn," his wife said.
    The Tjosaases later learned Wells Fargo had hired another contractor who made the same mistake as the first.

    Also UPI: Contractors break into wrong house twice
  13. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    YHGTBFKM. You would think they'd learn the first time after all the bad press.

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