Who Occupied the Occupy Movement?

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by Elizabeth Conley, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    http://jonathanturley.org/2012/12/30/who-occupied-the-occupy-movement/

    The corporations own our legislators entirely, and they are thick as thieves with the Executive branch. This is one of the many reasons why I don't like the corporate personhood doctrine. Again, just one of many.
     
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  2. KrazyKat

    KrazyKat Original Member

    And one reason too, I hope, that we recognize fear is not just the territory of those who have boundary issues, but a legitimate reaction by citizens who may be subject to “Potential Criminal Activity Alerts” simply because of their lawful dissent.
    The document shows parties willing to be snipers targeting OWS.
     
  3. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I'm really skeptical of this.

    I first found this written up a couple days ago on the by Naomi What-Her-Name. It came off pretty much as self-delusional confirmation of what some want to believe (blame the 1%, yadayadayada).

    Personally, if an industry lobby could influence our government to that degree, I'd say we're not in as bad a shape as some think. Unfortunately I don't give them that much credit for being responsive to anyone

    Previously insights placed the FBI & DHS clearly coordinating the string-pulling behind the scenes, and that makes a lot more sense to me. The fusion & media centers in DHS are deathly afraid of any power shift that might result from any movement that becomes popular.

    Can you imagine what would happen if we had a home-grown version of the Greens, for example? Most Americans who would be Greens tend to come of as a bit naive because they're completely inexperienced politicians who aren't (yet) capable of operating in the real political world, yet their fundamental ideas can be very attractive. There have been a number of them where I (pretty much a die-hard conservative) have said that I could vote for them but ... for some of the dingy details that they inevitably come up with. Give them a chance.

    The Occupy Movement presents similar challenges to the existing power structures and it was much better organized than any American Greens. I think it's just the first step in a coming evolution, and DHS is going to be resisting these changes by flexing its muscles through law enforcement agencies.
     
  4. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I think this is where so many people miss the boat.

    At the end of the day, corporations are controlled by a very small number of people -- sometimes a corporation is an extension of as little as one person. It's a people thing, not a corporation thing. You have to learn to focus on the cohorts of people that are cooperating. Forget the corporations.
     
  5. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I agree with this. But I disagree that assassinations are off the table if need be--if someone or several someones threatens to upset the applecart, I suspect they'll be disappeared. The US government is already murdering people overseas upon mere suspicion via the CIA's drone program. If a threat crops up here they won't shrink from doing what they think they need to do.
     
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    I'd settle for relocation to Gitmo in the off season. :) We'd be snowbirds with gubmint accommodations.
     

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