Windows 8

Discussion in 'What's On Your Mind?' started by RB, Nov 3, 2012.

  1. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Anyone making the change to Win 8? If so why? I've tried reading up on it and haven't figured out any real benefit other than claimed faster boots over Win 7 boxes. My computer is probably nearing end of life technology wise. Bought with Vista then upgraded to Win 7 when it came out. My monitor is 22" wide format but would not support touch screen nor will my computer support secure boot.

    Any ideas or suggestions?
     
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Buy the computer you like and never, ever, upgrade the system. I do let Windows download updates occasionallly (when I feel like it) but I never install upgrades to new systems.

    On PC's the only upgrade I've ever done (on both work & home computers) was Windows 3.1 to Windows 95. That was truly a leap in technology. Nothing since has been significant enough to spend time and money on.

    I'm pretty sure I have Windows 8 (32-bit) on my new computer at work, can't doublecheck until Monday, but we have a dedicated IT staff to attend to the care & feeding of updates & upgrades.

    Touch screen? I first encountered that on PLATO in the mid-1970's. :) Nice of them to catch up!
     
  3. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Thanks Mike. I don't see much in Win 8 that would push me in the direction of trying to install it. As far as touch screen goes I really don't see that being much of an advantage for a desktop. For a tablet yeah, but not the desktop. Guess I'm not forward looking enough to see the advantage in that feature.
     
  4. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    Treat Windows 8 like a vampire treats garlic. As someone who works next door to a beta tester of W8, it's the best advertisement for OS10 ever created.
     
  5. RB

    RB Founding Member

    The last Apple product I had was an Apple IIe. I keep looking at the modern version of Apple products but just can't make myself turn a loose the money needed to buy one. They seem so over priced that I don't know how any are sold. Perhaps Apple products are the best thing since sliced bread but I'm not convinced.
     
  6. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    I'm not either. But I would (and am) buying as many W7 licenses as I can before they stop selling them. Any new machine I buy that has W8 preinstalled will have the hard drive wiped and W7 installed. It's just that bad. It will have you longing for the days of Vista, that's how bad it is.
     
  7. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    That's what beta tests are about.

    Apple lost me as a customer almost 20 years ago because they show zero understanding of the concept of backwards compatibility. Their OS upgrades were free but usually cost lots of money & delay to upgrade applications.
     
  8. nachtnebel

    nachtnebel Original Member

    I'd stay away from Windows 8. The morons up in Redmond screwed up everything on that OS. They optimized it for touch screens at the expense of the mouse. Really bad interface if you like using a mouse. The Start menu--GONE. Good luck on shutting it down. They changed to a keyboard key combination that you have to memorize---no more shut off menu.

    too stupid for words. This OS will bomb worse than Millenium or Vista. One of my colleagues just joined us from that outfit and worked on 8. He's fit to be tied over it. Windows 7 is the best OS they've come up with, IMO. stick with it until Microscum fixes 8 or bypasses it with 9.
     
  9. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Having demo'd Win8 and run Win7 for a couple years, I can say that from an IT perspective, Windows 8 does run faster and perform a fair bit more efficiently on identical hardware than Win7 does.

    The problem is that the time you waste fighting with the new UI in order to get to the point where the system can leverage that performance more than makes up for the performance increase itself.

    With XP going the way of the dodo, either via lack of ideal hardware or MSFT end-of-lifing it in 2014, staying with XP isn't going to be an option. It had a good run but it has legitimately been succeeded by superior OSes (not all of them developed by Microsoft - you can have my Lubuntu environment when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers).

    However, we're at a point where if you're going to seriously run Windows 8, you have a specific reason for doing so and you know exactly what that reason is. The "tabletized" UI was a needlessly disruptive change in the desktop paradigm and while it's too early to call it a total failure, I believe MSFT will be disappointed in public reception compared to what they expected.

    As of right now, a 64-bit install of Windows 7 is still a better choice than Windows 8 for the vast majority of users. It legitimately performs better than XP on identical hardware (as long as you're on, say, at least a C2D or newer, and even some Pentium 4s can benefit from it). Win7 is what Vista should have been and is the soundest ground upon which to stand if you want a Microsoft OS. It brought Windows to where OS X has been for years and there's too little to be gained from Windows 8 for an average user to make it worth bothering with.

    RB - as an owner of 2 Macs and, recently, an iPad, I can say this: Apple products are good. I have never had buyer's remorse from either of the 2 Apple PCs I've bought, and while I have no illusions about the iPad being anything other than a fancy toy and not a productivity tool, it is very addictive to use and it makes a lot of simple tasks effortless. Like anything, it has its niche and fills it quite nicely. That said, I completely understand the financial perspective. You do get what you pay for with Apple, but you can be damn sure you'll be doing that paying. That said, as OEMs go, they're among very few I have no reservations about trusting. Apple, Lenovo and ASUS are the only 3 who've consistently impressed me and if I ever tire of building my own systems to my own spec, I'd consider Apple very early on. That's assuming they don't plan on shafting me again like they did in '09 by making Snow Leopard Intel-only and effectively obsoleting my $3300 quad-core G5. But I'm not bitter. Not at all. ...Really. Honest. Stack of bibles and all that jazz.
     
  10. Frank

    Frank Original Member

    I just ordered a TF700 as my new tablet (Android). I'll let you know how that works out.
     
  11. RB

    RB Founding Member

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