Winning it one grope at a time ...

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

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    @esmemurphy esme murphy - WCCO​

    Once again husband gets full TSA pat down - son says " do we look like criminals"?​

    Esme Murphy is a local Minneapolis-St. Paul news anchor.

    ^ to her son. Keep asking those questions, kid.
     
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  2. jackonferry

    jackonferry Original Member

    When I went through PIT Wednesday the WMTD were closed. It was WBI for all. There were about 12 people in front of me in the F/C/elite line. No one else opted out. However, several who went through got full (arms, legs, torso) but cursory (no collar, hair or groin grabs) patdowns. Since PIT does not have ATR the full-body frisk still applies when anomalies are detected. The looks on the faces were priceless -- people were irritated.

    My own opt out was uneventful. I could always see my stuff. I saw the TSO putting on new gloves but then he contaminated them when he pulled my luggage. I asked for a change and he was thrown by that a bit. I don't bother to ask that they test the gloves before the patdown. I've never seen them put a new swab in the wand, which is always just sitting on a table. I figure if I ever false alarm on the ETD, we're just going to have a fight about wand/swab contamination. I'm interested in whether I can get them to do a re-frisk with clean ETD materials or whether they will try to move directly to the extra-special, secret, private frisk.
     
  3. barbell

    barbell Coach Coach

    I doubt it.

    The agency seems to be so convinced that whatever they are doing is right, that there is no possible way to contaminate the equipment used. Nevermind that anyone with a modicum of understanding in the scientific method can see the entire process is contaminated from start to finish, oh and that the ETD equipment being used is both ineffective and faulty.

    I imagine you will be given some element of a need to prove your innocence.

    Remember, we must destroy Liberty to save it.
     
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  4. Cartoon Peril

    Cartoon Peril Original Member

    There isn't even a high school knowledge of chemistry here. This is not a serious effort to detect bombs. It is just a sham. If it was a serious effort, it would be conducted in a bomb proof room and there would be appropriate controls to prevent cross-contamination. If a passenger alarms, and it proves false (as appears to have been 100% true so far), that means that there is a possibility that some other person got through with a bomb, no? Terminal dump? No way. Just forget about it.
     
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