Woman jailed for not allowing daughter to be viewed naked or groped

Discussion in 'Aviation Passenger Security in the USA' started by Mike, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Wasn't there a previous incident with photography at the Nashville airport in the last few months?
  2. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Found it, I think:

  3. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Brieni. Worked for DHS since 2007.
  4. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Bingo on facebook.com/brieni!

    She studied Homeland Security at Nashville State Community College, is from Nebrask, has been employed by the TSA since 2007. Actually, she's a fairly good looking young woman. Seems to be about 30 years old. She also sells Avon products.
  5. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Thanks, Jon, for doing this. I'll help as much as I can. The dryer died on Sunday and I just had my first post-retirement/no dental insurance dentist visit. Needless to say, doober is not a happy camper today. :eek:
  6. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    Any clue as to where she lives? She's responsible for Avon products in the Joelton area, which is in both Davidson & Cheatham counties. No matches for her in the Davidson Co. property tax recoreds, Cheatham Co. appears to be back in the stone age with records not on-line.

    Later: Joelton, TN, according to MyLife.com
  7. N965VJ

    N965VJ Original Member

  8. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Her FB page says she lives in Nashville, but I can't find her. Could be that she lives with her boyfriend and uses only a cell phone.
  9. RB

    RB Founding Member

    Send her an invite to TUG.:)
  10. Doober

    Doober Original Member

    Unless I'm doing something wrong, it appears she has taken down her FB page.
  11. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member

    Yep, albeit too late.

    Hmm, a Change.org "Tell Avon to fire their abusive, unethical TSO employee" petition would be fun to start.
  12. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

    There are probably a few dozen (or maybe a few hundred) people trying to figure out who she is & where she lives today.
  13. Mike

    Mike Founding Member Coach

  14. lkkinetic

    lkkinetic Original Member

    I do hope this is the tipping point.

    The acceleration of and the number and variety of incidents in the past three weeks is striking -- elderly woman with incontinence garment, double-pat-down on a child, woman complaining about possible racial motivation of hair search, multiple stories of TSA agent thefts, now this.

    Let's keep the pressure on.
  15. CelticWhisper

    CelticWhisper Founding Member


    Jackpot, motherfrakkers.

    That's seven-oh-oh comments in the last 12 hours. The only articles that get that many comments on Slashdot are the major stories like Wikileaks.
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  16. Elizabeth Conley

    Elizabeth Conley Original Member

    I humbly submit that we should give the lady some space. Parenting and running a business are very consuming activities, particularly during the Summer months or when home-schooling. She went into the airport that day as a private citizen, and came out a public icon. It's not something she asked for.

    The TSA perps and their LEO colluders claim the mother cursed at them and created a disturbance. Somehow I doubt it. Remember that they've made similar claims against other victims they've arrested, only to be proved liars later. It's very telling that they were so violently opposed to her attempt to use her cell phone's recording function. The perps knew they were wrong, and they were already engaged in CYA.

    A parent should be vehement in their resistance to having their child sexually assaulted or irradiated. I'm so sowwy the poor widdle bedwetters who work for the TSA are traumatized by a stern voice, but what do they expect? They're sexually assaulting and irradiating people's children. Who thinks baby-talking a criminal actively engaged in a felony is effective or wise?

    When law-enforcement agencies start teaching their officers baby-talk, and self defense instructors switch from jujitsu to namby-pamby classes, I'll buy into the concept. For now, women instructing criminals to refrain from assaulting them are encouraged to use a stern voice.

    Was this woman's daughter irradiated or molested? If not, her stern tone worked. If so, she should press charges.

    In the meantime, we should show public support and give the lady space. Her lawyer will tell her who she should risk communicating with and what she should and should not say.
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  17. lkkinetic

    lkkinetic Original Member

    You know, I'm thrilled with all of the coverage from Slashdot, Boing Boing, Techdirt, Ars Technica ... but I'm always disappointed with how unrepresentative we techie geeks are of the population as a whole. Our outrage isn't necessarily translating into general outrage, although I believe it should. In some ways this is a similar point to one I made a couple of weeks ago in a different thread about how much of the population makes decisions using emotions, while more of us geeky analytical folks do not (in Myers-Briggs speak, the NTs are a much smaller share of the population than the SFs).
  18. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    I've been working overtime trying to slap down the TSA apologists over there. There are two that are particularly egregious -- "Terry1955" and "vestevens." They're relentless.

    Oh, and 585 comments there as of this writing.
  19. Doober

    Doober Original Member

  20. Lisa Simeone

    Lisa Simeone Original Member

    Elizabeth makes a good point above about giving the woman -- both women -- some breathing space. I must admit I feel queasy about harassing an individual TSA employee. This borders on abuse itself. Especially if it's at her home, her private haunts, etc. We shouldn't turn into the creeps we're trying to fight. Shunning is different -- if you knew her personally and lived in her town, for example, you could decide to tell her you disapprove of the way she treated Andrea Abbott and of the gropefests in general, and tell her that's why you've decided not to have anything to do with her anymore. That's different from being a stranger and showing up on her doorstep alone or with a group of people.

    Anyway, thought y'all might like to see a few other discussions going on in the blogosphere:

    Here's Amy Alkon:

    Here's defense lawyer Mark Bennett, who ridicules the judge who signed off on the affidavit for "disorderly conduct" to arrest Abbott, and who has written about TSA abuse in the past. He has 2 new TSA posts up:
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